Pro-Homosexual Study Authored by Lesbian

Agape Press ^ | February 9, 2005 | AFA Journal

[LibertarianInExile]

Logic trumps emotional "fags suck" comments BUMP!

[xm177e2]

Raising questions about a conflict of interests, a pro-family leader claims that the co-author of a 2002 study of the children of homosexual couples is not a researcher but a propagandist.

Anti-gay group run by heterosexual

Charging a conflict of interest, homosexuals accused Agape Press of being run by heterosexuals to promote their own pro-heterosexual agenda.

"The information disseminated by Agape Press is not to be trusted because the men who work for it put their penises in vaginas and are just looking to justify their lifestyle choice" said homosexual activist Leslie Bian.

[LibertarianInExile]

ROFLMAO. Great way of making the point. This keeps up, maybe it's a trend for the positive in discussion around here.

Now, if y'all want to automatically suspect the sanity of the woman, she's a...professor of psychology...at UVa. Each of those characteristics taken separately means she's all f'ed up. 8^D

Here's a picture of "I am my kids' second Mom" Patterson:

[LibertarianInExile]

Here's some basic info on the STUDY, from the UVa web site:

[Patterson] and her colleagues based their research on a sample of 12- to 18-year-old adolescents from 88 families. The sample was drawn from a large national survey of American adolescents, the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health. Forty-four of the study participants were parented by same-sex female couples and 44 were parented by opposite-sex couples. The two groups were matched by demographic characteristics such as age, income levels, social situations and other factors — with the exception of family type — to ensure the two groups were comparable.

On measures of their psychosocial adjustment and school results, such as grades and test scores, both groups had similar outcomes, and their adjustment was not affected by the type of family — whether same sex or opposite sex parents.

Because data for this study was drawn from those collected for a large national survey, the researchers encountered important advantages, Patterson said. First, participating families came from various parts of the United States, instead of from a single geographical area, as in most previous research. Second, the sample included participants from different racial and socioeconomic groups, and was more diverse than samples in most previous studies. Finally, because the data were originally collected for other reasons, the possibility of bias was minimized.

These strengths, Patterson said, add to confidence in the main findings that the quality of relationships within families are more important for adolescent development than whether parents have same-sex or opposite-sex partners.

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Now, I'm not ready to leap up and support the findings (which I believe are probably a little subjective, given that this is sociology and there are a lot of variables to evaluate when considering measures of their "psychosocial adjustment" and "school results"), but I'd have to find out more to this study to figure out if it WAS screwed up somehow. It certainly doesn't sound it in the UVa PR piece...but then, it's a Wahoo PR piece.

She's also written this 369 page whopper.

Interesting position paper on the issue by a group with a pro-hetero bent...though it does not seem to review this study.

My only experience with a kid like this (i.e., one raised by two same-sex parents) is that the little guy was weirder than a grits-eatin' Yankee. Anecdotal evidence proves nothing, of course, but it predisposes me to want to see the methodology before I buy this or any other "same-sex kids are okay" study.

[lentulusgracchus]

Those in favor of legitimizing same-sex families frequently gloss over or completely ignore this area of debate. ....Dr. Ellen Perrin, professor of pediatrics at the Tufts-New England Medical Center, said the matter was not even a valid question. "One of those questions that always gets asked is, 'What are these kids [raised in same-sex families] going to be?' I'm bothered by that question," she said, adding that "it's a homophobic question, because it doesn't matter" if a child turns out to be homosexual.

This is how an educated person says, "So what? And whatsit tuya?"

Since innocent children are involved, it's worth remembering that this mentality is one of the reasons why society invented police.

In other news, standup comedienne Paula Poundstone lost her guardianship of her adoptive children after being charged by her California authorities under a section of state law dealing with the commission of lewd acts on the person of a minor.

Even California still frowns on that kind of thing, so yeah, it does matter, and no, it isn't "homophobic".

[lentulusgracchus]

Anecdotal evidence proves nothing, of course, but it predisposes me to want to see the methodology before I buy this or any other "same-sex kids are okay" study.

The other thing to keep in mind is that, if the lesbian researcher is selling us a line, it's young kids who will pay the price for our believing her, and they will be our sad dataset when eventually the time comes to refute her with contrary evidence.

One is reminded that 70's feminists who insisted fiercely that women heading single-parent families could do just as good a job as a couple in raising children, were very wrong but never returned to claim responsibility for their errors or to help pick up the pieces of all the families that believed them.

[DBeers]

Anti-gay group run by heterosexual

Your love of homosexuality is evident on every post on the subject...

[lentulusgracchus]

[ReeseKev27] Is there such a thing as Homophobes? I think it could be yet another trick of the left to shame people into accepting something they don't want to.

Actually, the clinical definition of "homophobe" describes a person who is marked by unreasoning dread and fear of homosexual persons -- who becomes, as it were, walleyed in their presence. Such a person is objectively disturbed.

In practice, however, "phobe" is just a smear-word used by the Left to mean, actually, people who dissent from their own POV, particularly people who object to homosexuality on moral, religious, esthetic, or instrumental (i.e. Straussian) grounds.

The word is used as an epithet, to curse, to belittle, and to dismiss. It's the homosexual Left's equivalent of "the N-bomb".

[DBeers]

88 families

Blah Blah Blah -as a statistician I am not impressed by the garbage this study attempts to pass off as significant finding...Bias is the only thing driving this trash...

Human history has proven by default the heterosexual family -homosexuals are unable to breed; hence, no historical data is yet available to even attempt claiming equality.... A sample of 44 of each group is about as statistically significant as my opinion. The study is bogus... ONLY the ignorant and the homosexual activists lend such garbage credibility...

[MaxMax]

Patterson admitted that the study did not deal one of the most controversial issues -- whether or not kids raised in same-sex households were more likely to become homosexual themselves.

This perversionistic sickness has gone so far that just as communism
has failed, so shall they who dwell in the darkness of humanity.

May god bless those children into righteousness, and into condemning
the teachings of perverted minds.

[Mockingbird For Short]

http://www.savethemales.ca/000168.html

Good article, clearsight.

[clearsight]

Some others didn't think so, although I feel they have difficulty focusing on the topics and get distracted by other things on those web sites.

[ReeseKev27]

That was basically my point, that the left hurls that label at anyone who doesn't fully embrace homosexuality. I still debate whether or not "Homophobia" exists, clinically defined or not. In other words, I have never heard, seen, or read about a true life homophobe, has anyone else?

[ReeseKev27]

Actually those books were debunked by thousands of eye witnessess, millions of dead bodies, AND knowledge of the writers nazi sympathy's. What other conclusion would a nazi come to? What other conclusion is a homosexual going to come to?

[ReeseKev27]

To be more specific, one poses a single straight person responsible enough to take care of a child to fool the court.

[Publius Scipio]

What other conclusion is a pro-family advocate going to come to?

[ReeseKev27]

By the way, I get your point about not attacking the author straight away, and in less obvious circumstances I would completely agree. For instance, if this woman was not gay, and I didn't agree with the conclusion, I would then take the time to go into the data collected.

[Antoninus]

"One of those questions that always gets asked is, 'What are these kids [raised in same-sex families] going to be?' I'm bothered by that question," she said, adding that "it's a homophobic question, because it doesn't matter" if a child turns out to be homosexual.

Witness the strategy laid bare: When one asks a question you don't want to answer, call them or the question 'homophobic.' Just pathetic.

The inmates really are running the asylum. I guess we'll have to wait until the baby-boom generation dies off completely before any sense of sanity can return.

[cartoonistx]

"Extensive testing has proven that testing works!"

[ReeseKev27]

LOL.

Heterosexuality = lifestyle choice = LOL

Get it? In order to justify homosexuality, Heterosexuality must be cast as a, "lifestyle choice". thats funny.