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Sen. Kennedy's screed is the antithesis of his late brother's famous credo from his Jan. 20, 1961, inaugural address: "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty."

If anything, Sen. Kennedy's shameful stance more closely mirrors that of his father, Joseph P. Kennedy, who as FDR's ambassador to Great Britain during World War II was the chief administration proponent of appeasement of Hitler and the Nazis.

If Tubby could sober up long enough to be coherent, I'd love to see these words shoved down his fat throat!

1 posted on 02/12/2005 7:40:10 PM PST by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

I was thinking a printed copy rolled up and shoved with a twisting motion up.........


2 posted on 02/12/2005 7:42:01 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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3 posted on 02/12/2005 7:43:03 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: wagglebee

that's true, ol' joe was on the side of hitler.

and fdr sent a spy to keep watch on joe kennedy, finally recalling kennedy from the ambassadorship to england.


4 posted on 02/12/2005 7:43:38 PM PST by ken21
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Saying that Kennedy is the Iraq War's Jane Fonda is being very generous.


6 posted on 02/12/2005 7:53:07 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: wagglebee
Did someone mention Ted Kennedy?


9 posted on 02/12/2005 7:58:23 PM PST by infidel29 (America is GREAT because she is GOOD, the moment she ceases to be GOOD, she ceases to be GREAT- B.F.)
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To: wagglebee
There's a video tape of Fonda's work out regimen whee she is wearing a Speedo-like garment.

God forbid should Teddy try to impress us by wearing a Speedo!!!

15 posted on 02/12/2005 8:52:14 PM PST by Young Werther
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"Leaving aside that it was President John F. Kennedy who got the United States into the Vietnam War in the first place"

I agree with the rest of the article
However this statement is false.
What has become of American History?
The "other lie" is Hanoi Kerry's testimony in April 1971
IT WAS BASED UPON LIES AND PROVEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

12 Feb 55 - President Eisenhower's administration sends 1st 350 U.S. advisers to South Vietnam
to train the South Vietnamese Army
08 Jun 56 - 1st American advisor was killed
5 Sep 56 - President Eisenhower tells a news conference that the French are
"involved in a hopelessly losing war in Indochina"




From a Must Visit Site
Vipers Vietnam Veterans Page, A Vietnam Veteran & Proud Web Site
About Vietnam

The Vietnam war was the longest in our nation's history.
1st American advisor was killed on June 08, 1956,

and the last casualties in connection with the war occurred on May 15, 1975, during the Mayaquez incident. Approximately 2.7 million Americans served in the war zone; 300,000 were wounded and approximately 75,000 permanently disabled. Officially there are still 1,991 Americans unaccounted for from SE Asia.

Vietnam was a savage, in your face war where death could and did strike from anywhere with absolutely no warning. The brave young men and women who fought that war paid an awful price of blood, pain and suffering. As it is said: "ALL GAVE SOME ... SOME GAVE ALL"
The Vietnam war was not lost on the battlefield. No American force in ANY other conflict fought with more determination or sheer courage than the Vietnam Veteran.  For the first time in our history America sent it's young men and women into a war run by inept politicians who had no grasp of military strategies and no moral will to win. They were led by "top brass" who were concerned mainly with furthering their own careers, most neither understood the nature of the war nor had a clue about the impossible mission with which they'd tasked their soldiers.  And the war was reported by a self serving Media who penned stories filled with inaccuracies, deliberate omissions, biased presentations and blatant distorted interpretations because they were more interested in a story than the truth! It can be debated that we should never have fought that war. It can also be argued that the young Americans who fought so courageously, never losing a single major battle, helped in a huge way to WIN THE COLD WAR.

20 posted on 02/12/2005 9:31:51 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you Prayed for a service man or woman today?)
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If suicide bombers started blowing themselves up and killing people in downtown Boston, would Kennedy say that they were trying to win the hearts and minds of the people of Massachusetts?

Iraqis suffered for years under Saddam Hussein. Which Iraqis, Senator Kennedy, had their hearts and minds won over by seeing their friends and relatives blown up by insurgents? I'll tell you which ones. The ones who went out and voted. The insurgents random, wanton bloodshed drove them to the polls, you idiot.


30 posted on 02/12/2005 10:50:38 PM PST by The Fop
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To: wagglebee

This may be where Ted is getting his material:

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article7468.htm

See "Terrorist Propaganda". This video is directed to the Europeans and condemns the US and Britain. I stumbled accross it while trolling through antiwar.com


36 posted on 02/12/2005 11:33:24 PM PST by NRA Patriot 1976 (God bless our troops)
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To: wagglebee
Ted Kennedy: Iraq war's Jane Fonda

This is nothing new. Kennedy was a traitor in the late 1960s too. When I was in Vietnam, I remember listening to Radio Hanoi propaganda broadcasts of his speeches.

43 posted on 02/13/2005 6:21:19 AM PST by JoeGar
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To: wagglebee; ALOHA RONNIE; Bald Eagle777; BIGLOOK; Defender2; Blue Scourge; armyman; Arrowhead1952; ..
"Leaving aside that it was President John F. Kennedy who got the United States into the Vietnam War in the first place"

26 Sep 1945 - The first death of an American serviceman in Vietnam occurred.
OSS (Office of Special Operations) Major (Lieutenant Colonel) A. Peter Dewey
was killed in action by the Communist Vietminh near Hanoi.

May 1950 President Harry S Truman authorised $10 million in aid to the French for their war in Viet Nam.
By January 1951, $150 million had been given in aid.

1953-61 Dwight D. Eisenhower 34th US President
1953-61 Richard M. Nixon Vice President
1953 - The US is supporting the French in the amount of $1 billion per year--
33% of all US foreign aid--which is 80% of the total cost to the
. US Secretary of State, John Foster Dulles (under Eisenhower) first voices the 'Domino Theory':
if one country in Southeast Asia falls to the Communists, they will all fall, one by one.
12 Feb 55 - President Eisenhower's administration sends 1st 350 U.S. advisers to South Vietnam
to train the South Vietnamese Army
8 Jun 56 - The first American of record to die in Vietnam
was Air Force Tech Sergeant Richard B. Fitzgibbon Jr.
His son, Richard B. Fitzgibbon III, died in Vietnam Sep 7, 1965.
8 Jun 56 Has been formally recognized by the Pentagon as the first American officially to die in that war.
5 Sep 56 - President Eisenhower tells a news conference that the French are
"involved in a hopelessly losing war in Indochina" 1956 The US believed in that Ho Chi Minh would have won any election held in Viet Nam and used their influence over the government of the State of Viet Nam to ensure that the election was not held




From a Must Visit Site
Vipers Vietnam Veterans Page, A Vietnam Veteran & Proud Web Site
About Vietnam

The Vietnam war was the longest in our nation's history.
1st American advisor was killed on June 08, 1956,

and the last casualties in connection with the war occurred on May 15, 1975, during the Mayaquez incident. Approximately 2.7 million Americans served in the war zone; 300,000 were wounded and approximately 75,000 permanently disabled. Officially there are still 1,991 Americans unaccounted for from SE Asia.

Vietnam was a savage, in your face war where death could and did strike from anywhere with absolutely no warning. The brave young men and women who fought that war paid an awful price of blood, pain and suffering. As it is said: "ALL GAVE SOME ... SOME GAVE ALL"
The Vietnam war was not lost on the battlefield. No American force in ANY other conflict fought with more determination or sheer courage than the Vietnam Veteran.  For the first time in our history America sent it's young men and women into a war run by inept politicians who had no grasp of military strategies and no moral will to win. They were led by "top brass" who were concerned mainly with furthering their own careers, most neither understood the nature of the war nor had a clue about the impossible mission with which they'd tasked their soldiers.  And the war was reported by a self serving Media who penned stories filled with inaccuracies, deliberate omissions, biased presentations and blatant distorted interpretations because they were more interested in a story than the truth! It can be debated that we should never have fought that war. It can also be argued that the young Americans who fought so courageously, never losing a single major battle, helped in a huge way to WIN THE COLD WAR.

62 posted on 02/13/2005 5:43:33 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (The US Senate only has 99 legal Senators, and 1 illegal one. U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3)
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To: wagglebee

Ted Kennedy is the most anti-American politician I've seen in my lifetime. He truly hates his own country, even more so than the usual liberal.


65 posted on 02/13/2005 5:57:37 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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Quote:

"When I returned, Mary Jo and the car were gone".


68 posted on 02/13/2005 6:52:32 PM PST by bitt (Kerry "Hanoi"s me)
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To: wagglebee

Ted Kennedy and Air America: The Duke of Windsor and "Lord Haw-haw" of Operation Iraqi Freedom.


69 posted on 02/13/2005 7:41:07 PM PST by Bombardier (Scratch a Democrat, find a traitor.)
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"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002


76 posted on 02/17/2005 12:05:54 PM PST by votelife (Elect a filibuster proof majority, 60 conservative US Senators!)
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To: wagglebee
If anything, Sen. Kennedy's shameful stance more closely mirrors that of his father, Joseph P. Kennedy, who as FDR's ambassador to Great Britain during World War II was the chief administration proponent of appeasement of Hitler and the Nazis.

I don't know how the other two brothers would have turned out but it could not have been any worse than Fat Eddie.

77 posted on 02/17/2005 12:11:16 PM PST by oldbrowser (They're not the MSM.........they are the AGENDA MEDIA)
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