BWAAA HAAA HAAA HAAAA!
I pointed out the irony of a pompous know-it-all insisting on people checking facts and referring to his posted list as his proof, when the first 2 links I clicked on in his list led to nowhere. Not only had the links expired, they have been expired for over 4 years. Also, I have made no attempt to convert anyone to any position in this thread, nor have I posted supposed facts supporting either position. Nor have I claimed to be polite. You still haven't answered why you find it so compelling to convince people of your position. Why do you care so deeply about what other people choose to believe?