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To: Stultis

Actually, no, this is the closest it came::

Three other remarkable features in the first chapters of Genesis deserve a brief reference.

The first is the assertion of the original unity of the language of the human race. (Gen. 11:1.) Max Muller, a foremost ethnologist and philologist, declares that all our languages, in spite of their diversities, must have originated in one common source. (See Saphir, "Divine Unity," p. 206; Dawson, "Origin of the World," p. 286; Guinness, "Divine Programme," p. 75.)

The second is that miracle of ethnological prophecy by Noah in Gen. 9:26, 27, in which we have foretold in v sublime epitome the three great divisions of the human race, and their ultimate historic destinies. The three great divisions, Hamitic, Shemitic, and Japhetic, are the three ethnic groups into which modern science has divided the human race. The facts of history have fulfilled what was foretold in Genesis four thousand years ago. The Hamitic nations, including the Chaldean, Babylonic, and Egyptian, have been degraded, profane, and sensual. The Shemitic have been the religious with the line of the coming Messiah. The japhetic have been the enlarging, and the dominant races, including all the great world monarchies, both of the ancient and modern times, the Grecian, Roman, Gothic, Celtic, Teutonic, British and American, and by recent investigation and discovery, the races of India, China, and Japan. Thus I-lam lost all empire centuries ago; Shem and his race acquired it ethically and spiritually through the Prophet, Priest and King, the Messiah; while Japheth, in world-embracing enlargement and imperial supremacy, has stood for industrial, commercial, and political dominion.


You need to think of that one for a while, it has to do with the origin of races so to speak, where people came from

it involves geneologies, time lines, lines of kings and kingdoms

It also has to do with the life spans of those kings

MEANING, since we can trace back lineage 4000 years to Noah, thatr means NOAH is true, that means Genesis is true, that means Creation is true.

See it yet?


1,186 posted on 02/09/2005 6:14:20 PM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: RaceBannon

"in which we have foretold in v sublime epitome the three great divisions of the human race, and their ultimate historic destinies. The three great divisions, Hamitic, Shemitic, and Japhetic,"

How do you get three races out of one couple?


1,189 posted on 02/09/2005 6:20:02 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: RaceBannon
You need to think of that one for a while, it has to do with the origin of races so to speak, where people came from

it involves geneologies, time lines, lines of kings and kingdoms

It also has to do with the life spans of those kings

MEANING, since we can trace back lineage 4000 years to Noah, thatr means NOAH is true, that means Genesis is true, that means Creation is true.

See it yet?

Uh, no. I read the whole article carefully, including that passage. I don't see it because it's not there. You're reading things into it because (frankly it's obvious) you don't know squat about the history of these debates, either within science or among conservative Christians.

All this passage suggests is that the history of humans, or even more specifically of Adam on his descendants, did not extend greatly beyond the range of known or conventional history. This is not at all the same as affirming likewise about either the earth or about non-human creatures.

It was standard fare at the time to make this distinction, to argue that the earth was ancient, and life was ancient, but that humans (or "adamic" humans) were not. Very few ancient human fossils had been found by that time. Also none of these creationists were flood geologists. So they were looking at a geological record where human remains were found only in very recent deposits, underlain by vast depths of sediments containing no humans at all, and filled with strange and extinct forms.

You're reading this passage through your modern "scientific creationism" lenses, believing that most of these sediments were all plopped down in a year by Noah's flood. None of these guys writing in The Fundamentals believed such nonsense, or if they did they never said so.

1,195 posted on 02/09/2005 6:44:32 PM PST by Stultis
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To: RaceBannon

last time I checked, genetic surveys of mitochondrial DNA does not support the existence of a bottleneck -let alone a singularity- as recent as a mere 4,000 years ago.

care to explain?


1,208 posted on 02/09/2005 7:14:48 PM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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