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Scientists find missing link between whale and its closest relative, the hippo
UC Berkeley News ^ | 24 January 2005 | Robert Sanders, Media Relations

Posted on 02/08/2005 3:50:43 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: houeto
There's more to that quote:

"Continuing the distortion, several creationists have equated the theory of punctuated equilibrium with a caricature of the beliefs of Richard Goldschmidt, a great early geneticist. Goldschmidt argued, in a famous book published in 1949, that new groups can arise all at once through major mutations. He referred to these suddenly transformed creatures as "hopeful monsters." (I am attracted to some aspects of the non-caricatured version, but Goldschmidt’s theory still has nothing to do with punctuated equilibrium…) Creationist Luther Sunderland talks of the "punctuated equilibrium hopeful monster theory" and tells his hopeful readers that "it amounts to tacit admission that anti-evolutionists are correct in asserting there is no fossil evidence supporting the theory that all life is connected to a common ancestor." Duane Gish writes, "According to Goldschmidt, and now apparently according to Gould, a reptile laid an egg from which the first bird, feathers and all, was produced." Any evolutionist who believed such nonsense would rightly be laughed off the intellectual stage; yet the only theory that could ever envision such a scenario for the origin of birds is creationism—with God acting in the egg. [My emphasis.]

581 posted on 02/08/2005 2:29:30 PM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: PatrickHenry

Gee...and I thought Michael Moore was the closest link to the whale........


582 posted on 02/08/2005 2:30:00 PM PST by TexConfederate1861 (Sic Semper Tyrannis!)
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To: Junior
Or is the evidence being suppressed by a cabal of astrophysicists bent on misleading the entire world for some mysterious purpose?

I don't think that the purpose is all that mysterious. Throughout moderns times, scientists thinking 'outside the box' have been ridiculed from their professions. It is as simple as that.

The same holds true for the dirty comet theory. There are some that don't believe it, almost none that will submit it.

583 posted on 02/08/2005 2:30:33 PM PST by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: WildTurkey
Evolutionary origins of multidrug and drug-specific efflux pumps in bacteria.

Co-evolution of ligand-receptor pairs in the vasopressin/oxytocin superfamily of bioactive peptides

Co-evolution of ligand-receptor pairs in the vasopressin/oxytocin superfamily of bioactive peptides

There's 3 in a row for you to try to click on in his list.

I certainly hope your science facts aren't based on such scanty trials. He had over 50 sites listed, you verified 4, and you tell me I should check my computer? Do you really think that is a good enough sampling to suggest that I was mistaken?

Why do you feel so compelled to evangelize on the subject of evolution?

584 posted on 02/08/2005 2:30:34 PM PST by SubSailor
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To: RadioAstronomer

Shoulda pinged you to 571, too.


585 posted on 02/08/2005 2:30:36 PM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: TexConfederate1861

This thread is too juicy not to bookmark.


586 posted on 02/08/2005 2:32:50 PM PST by FastCoyote
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To: houeto

Euglena


587 posted on 02/08/2005 2:36:09 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: houeto

What dirty comet theory? Astronomers know that comets aren't simply made of ice; they have other things mixed in -- things that end up as meteors (cf, the Leonids). And, as for "thinking outside the box," as long as the evidence supports a theory, other researchers will give it a fair shake in the peer-review process. If it doesn't cover the evidence, don't expect anything but ridicule. Methinks your "electromagnetic gravity" theory falls into the latter category.


588 posted on 02/08/2005 2:36:13 PM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: houeto

There are hundreds of observed examples of speciation.


589 posted on 02/08/2005 2:37:19 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: SubSailor

The first link is about 25 down. I find your statement that the "first two you tried" were invalid to be statistically of low probability, and thus, according to creationist probability analyis, impossible.


590 posted on 02/08/2005 2:37:51 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: shubi
Actually the term Canis lupis is the genus species of the "wolf". There are 9 subspecies, some include the steppe wolf, timber wolf, tundra wolf, great planes wolf,red wolf, Mexican wolf. Canis latrans is the species which we call the coyote. The Jackal, an African species has 4 subspecies which all belong to the taxa Canis aureus, Canis mesomelas, Canis simensis, and Canis adustus.

It is probale that all, under proper conditions, can crossbreed, just as a lion can breed a tiger and create offspring.

It is well known that Canis lupus will breed Canis domesticus without provocation. It is also well known that CAnis latrans will do likewise, without prompting.

591 posted on 02/08/2005 2:37:51 PM PST by Texas Songwriter (p)
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To: shubi

You really need to get together a press release and all your samples.


592 posted on 02/08/2005 2:38:40 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: SubSailor

Why didn't you provide him with the invalid links instead of repeatedly trying to convince everyone with your repeated posts that you were correct?


593 posted on 02/08/2005 2:39:06 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: balrog666

Yes, the echidnea was on the ark. Everyone knows that.


594 posted on 02/08/2005 2:39:57 PM PST by Texas Songwriter (p)
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To: Mamzelle

Why did God make the human eye backwards with a big blind spot in it?


595 posted on 02/08/2005 2:40:23 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: SubSailor
I certainly hope your science facts aren't based on such scanty trials. He had over 50 sites listed, you verified 4,

No. I checked the first three and four more for a total of seven of the first twenty.

596 posted on 02/08/2005 2:41:03 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: shubi

He needed a repository for the soul--a very small place, indeed.


597 posted on 02/08/2005 2:41:07 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
I should have said it's a relative of the cat. Its family broke off from the cat family.

Binturongs

598 posted on 02/08/2005 2:41:11 PM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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To: Modernman

"Where do you think we'll be a million years from now?"

Burned to a cinder because creationists caused us to lose all of our scientists that would have protected us from nuclear war.


599 posted on 02/08/2005 2:43:00 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: Modernman

I remember mongooses from Hawaii--ferret-like, intelligent, could eat both rats and fruit--they were imported to eat rats, but were on a different "clock" than rats. It turned out their favorite food was the eggs of rare Hawaiian birds.


600 posted on 02/08/2005 2:44:10 PM PST by Mamzelle
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