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Scientists find missing link between whale and its closest relative, the hippo
UC Berkeley News ^ | 24 January 2005 | Robert Sanders, Media Relations

Posted on 02/08/2005 3:50:43 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: King Prout
from its own reference, it would notice the acceleration,

Ah, now we are moving from the Special Theory of Relativity to the General Theory of Relativity ...

1,621 posted on 02/10/2005 2:27:49 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: King Prout

Let there be light occurs before the days of creation. The first few sentences are more important than the rest, IMHO.


1,622 posted on 02/10/2005 2:33:53 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: WildTurkey

no. no. no. no. no.

"we" are doing no such thing.

I shall retire from this segment of the discussion for the purposes of the conservation of my sanity, which CAN be converted to something else

:)


1,623 posted on 02/10/2005 2:38:51 PM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: WildTurkey

ekshooley, that chem101 class existed for one purpose alone: to weed out premeds who couldn't cut it.

I'll tell ya about it sometime.


1,624 posted on 02/10/2005 2:40:14 PM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: Tribune7

ICR has no science. Talk origins is ALL science.

You have twisted into a false equivocation for some reason.
I can tell you are closed to any rational discussion. So, I won't be attempting to teach you anything further.


1,625 posted on 02/10/2005 2:40:46 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: shubi
Let there be light occurs before the days of creation

yes, but that PHRASE came into being long after man grew accustomed to associating sunrise with beginnings. I ain't impressed by it nohow.

1,626 posted on 02/10/2005 2:41:31 PM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: King Prout
no. no. no. no. no.

But. but. but. but the GT of Relativity says that the "person" cannot distinguish whether he is accelerating or rather stationary in a gravitational field.

For example, the "classical" case of the person in the elevator that is accelerating upwards. He doesn't know he is accelerating, just that "gravity has increased".

Or, close your eyes and jump off a building. You will be accelerating but have NO sensation of accelerating, just a floating feeling (ingnoring wind noise), till you hit the ground.

1,627 posted on 02/10/2005 2:44:03 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: anguish

LOL Could you put a different caption on that?


1,628 posted on 02/10/2005 2:44:24 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: King Prout

Not Chem 101. You are thinking of Organic Chemistry.


1,629 posted on 02/10/2005 2:45:17 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: King Prout
yes, but that PHRASE came into being long after man grew accustomed to associating sunrise with beginnings. I ain't impressed by it nohow.

There is a lot written about the influence of Sun God worship got into the Bible.

1,630 posted on 02/10/2005 2:47:06 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey

oh, no - I am not going to get into that one, either

I have no desire to deliberately goad the religious participants on this thread.


1,631 posted on 02/10/2005 2:52:20 PM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: WildTurkey

NOT AT TULANE


1,632 posted on 02/10/2005 2:52:39 PM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: HankReardon

I said evidence, not proof. You have given no evidence. You haven't given any proof either. All you have given is opinion, feeling or hunch.

I was simply trying to point out the difference between scientific evidence and the Bravo Sierra most creationists expound.

I have several evidences for God. One is the phrase "let there be light" in Genesis. This is an indication that Genesis is divinely inspired, as simple bronze age people would not know about E=mc2 or the Big Bang. This type of "predictive" passage is similar to what scientific theories allow us to do.

To me, science is confirmation of God's existence. To try to convince creationists that the Big Bang or conversion of mass and energy is evidence for God is like pulling teeth.

The biggest evidence for God is Christ's Resurrection. Any Christian that does not put that on the list, is not much of a Christian.


1,633 posted on 02/10/2005 2:52:58 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: Tribune7

s-The bacterial flagellum is not even irreducible. Some bacterial flagella function without the L- and P-rings.

t-Now, this did not come up in my previous post addressing this subject but for a flagellum to function it needs the pump and motor, not the rings.

It is pathetic you don't even understand what the definition of irreducible complexity means, it is your side's own made up term.


1,634 posted on 02/10/2005 2:54:48 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: shubi
Talk origins is ALL science.

LOL

Talkorigins.org holds the view that since evolution has occurred only fools believe otherwise -- which is fine. I do think they feign an objectivity they don't have, which is a little dishonest.

1,635 posted on 02/10/2005 2:55:58 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: RightWhale

I am not enough of a math guy to understand that stuff.


1,636 posted on 02/10/2005 2:58:04 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: King Prout
from its own reference, it would notice the acceleration, but once the thrust ceased it would appear to be motonless while the rest of creation staggers past.

When some one is in an accident they say they were thrown into the windshield. That is actually the GT inertial frame of reference view (The car is slowing down but and accelerating (non-inertial) frame of reference). From the persons view (inertial frame of reference) it would be more appropriate to say that the windshield flew against the person.

Seems that the layman is way ahead on this one as Eienstien had to introduce non-inertial frames of reference to explain the GT of relativity, acceleration and gravity.

1,637 posted on 02/10/2005 3:00:33 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: King Prout

this is the first time I have heard of chemical and kinetic reactions having anything to do with conversion of energy to mass and vice-versa.

Note to creationists: The above is called learning (also humility, a character feature of Christ that creationists don't display very often)


1,638 posted on 02/10/2005 3:01:21 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: shubi
And here I had thought you stopped talking to me!!!!!!

It is pathetic you don't even understand what the definition of irreducible complexity means, it is your side's own made up term.

OK. Define irreducible complexity.

Hint

1,639 posted on 02/10/2005 3:04:11 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: HankReardon

Rakia, the word for firmament is literally the beating of metal into a thin foil. In the context of Genesis, which is the only place I can find the word used like this, I am convinced it is a description of the bounds of the universe.

It was translated firmament, because no one really knows what that is. Until recently, no one would dream to translate it the way I do.


1,640 posted on 02/10/2005 3:06:41 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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