Posted on 02/08/2005 3:50:43 AM PST by PatrickHenry
No, you are not excused, as that is not the information to which you referred.
shall I belabor you with cut'n'paste, or will you grow a pair and quit the dancing and either rebut or concede?
I don't know how familiar you are with cell and molecular biology, but this is a major paradigm shift if proven.
OMG! LMAO!!!! :-)
If the "flood" occurred in 1750 BC and the Chinese had writing at that time, seems they would have recorded something ...
I found the tidbit about the "two mutations" occurring just after conception interesting also. Subtle but a very powerful mechanism.
yeah, but, damn - the very idea of non-nuclear material from the sperm surviving to be passed to the zygote is quite a radical departure from everything I have studied to this point.
Granted, I'm a piker, but still, phew!
this needs to be studied intensively.
Yes. That type of "transfer" could take us back millions of years!
notions/questions:
could this be a biological sport similar to the slightly better-known "chimerae"?
- if a developing embryo can partially or completely absorb and incorporate its identical or fraternal twin, is it possible that one could similarly partially or completely absorb and incorporate sperm secondary to fertilization?
If "yes", how could this be tested?
Insert only the pertinent "data" into the egg via cloning techniqes?
I dunno 'bout that, but if this sort of thing is possible, its frequency of incidence should be determined and various forensics paradigms refined by the new data.
how and what would that test?
I have... And if you want to actually have an informed opinion on the subject before you spout off about it, you should too.
I'm just speculating from ignorance. Given that cloning contains only the information from the egg, if additional information is inserted and "incorporated" vs. being destroyed, that would support the hypothesis.
ah. thanks - I was not clear what you meant.
I would think that exposing (a hell of a lot of) animal embryos of various stages of development to a sperm-rich environment might be a sufficient testing protocol.
I would think this would be a problem as the egg has barriers to sperm entry following initial fertilization. One would be looking for a needle in a haystack but faced with first finding the country the haystack was in.
I am aware of the barriers, but at some point the zygote CAN absorb foreign cells - fraternal-twin "chimerae" are ample proof of that.
Always back to the Bible. Others have been basing their anti-evolution beliefs on the Biblical teachings, I have not. I do not discaount the Bible at all though.
also: ain't no such thing as a foolproof barrier ;)
the study would require years, hundreds of thousands of trials, etc... yes.
that's lab science and clinical medicine for ya.
Could you use fruit flies? This would remake the classical high school science project. Imagine thousands of kids up all night looking for that strange fruitfly!
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