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Verdict reached-Paul Shanley Sex Abuse - GUILTY
Court TV ^ | Feb 7, 2005 | Court TV

Posted on 02/07/2005 1:21:00 PM PST by Former Military Chick

EAST CAMBRIDGE, Mass. — Jurors weighing the fate of a Boston-area priest accused of raping a young parishioner went home Friday without a verdict after about seven hours of deliberations.

Five men and seven women began deliberations Thursday afternoon in the child sex-abuse trial of defrocked priest Paul Shanley, after the defense rested its one-witness case and lawyers delivered their closing arguments.

Shanley faces life in prison on two counts each of child rape and indecent assault and battery. A fifth count of child rape was dropped from the indictment Monday after Shanley's accuser was unable to testify about one of the alleged incidents.

The jury is set to return at 9 a.m. Monday morning, prompting observers to wonder about the effect a Super Bowl victory for the Patriots would have on the verdict.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: abusivepriests; shanley
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To: Catspaw

"His memories of the rapes came back when he was told of Shanley's arrest and went to a counselor within 12-15 hours with these memories."

How could there not be reasonable doubt that these momries were wrong?


21 posted on 02/07/2005 1:40:18 PM PST by Moral Hazard (With a pickle mind we kick the nipple beer.)
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To: Moral Hazard

See posts 19 and 20. Dozens and dozens of boys have already won a civil suit against Shanley last year. I believe one of those victims committed suicide shortly aftewards.


22 posted on 02/07/2005 1:40:43 PM PST by somerville
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To: Moral Hazard

Well, I'm sure if you'd been on the jury, you'd have found one of the founders of NAMBLA innocent.


23 posted on 02/07/2005 1:42:26 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: Moral Hazard

You clearly haven't read the terrifying Vanity Fair magazine article or Boston Globe pieces on Shanley. He was one of the founding members of NAMBLA- gave a speech at a meeting saying that "little boys are the seducers." The Catholic Church knew he was a pedophile and kept transferring him from parish to parish.


24 posted on 02/07/2005 1:43:32 PM PST by somerville
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To: somerville

So his accuser had a financial interest in this? Then this verdict makes even less sense.


25 posted on 02/07/2005 1:43:45 PM PST by Moral Hazard (With a pickle mind we kick the nipple beer.)
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To: Catspaw

"Well, I'm sure if you'd been on the jury, you'd have found one of the founders of NAMBLA innocent."

Wasn't it stated in an earlier post here that that information was not admitted at trial? Are you saying that if you were a juror you would ignore the rules of evidence?


26 posted on 02/07/2005 1:45:19 PM PST by Moral Hazard (With a pickle mind we kick the nipple beer.)
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To: Moral Hazard
And they convicted him?

Yes, there is really very little to this case. The witness had a epiphany and suddenly remembered being raped one day. Right when the stuff was hitting the fan in the media.

One wonders if this was not another case like the molestations at the day care center that turned out to be bogus.

One wonders, but I doubt we will dwell on it long.

27 posted on 02/07/2005 1:45:34 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: Moral Hazard

You have no idea what you are talking about. Shanley is a founding member of North American Man Boy Love Association.
Do a google search on him. Hundreds of damning articles on this guy. Also, what's wrong with getting money from someone who ruined your life, especially a pedophile ?

I hope you'll start educating yourself by reading the Vanity Fair piece or the Boston Globe pieces on Shanley. It is believed he molested/raped hundreds of boys around the country.


28 posted on 02/07/2005 1:46:48 PM PST by somerville
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To: Moral Hazard
His victim had already reached a settlement with the diocese. In fact, he already had received $500,000. The opposite is true: the victim of Shanley's crimes had no financial interest in a criminal trial. He already received the money and had no obligation to testify.

The defense, BTW, used the depositions in the civil case in its three-day cross of the victim.

29 posted on 02/07/2005 1:46:49 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: Moral Hazard

Shanley's founding of NAMBLA or that there were other victims were not used in the trial. But your cheerleading for the founder of NAMBLA is quite apparent.


30 posted on 02/07/2005 1:47:58 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: Moral Hazard

Also, Father Shanley is the reason Cardinal Law had to resign from Boston. He knew for years that Shanley was a pedophile and kept covering it up.


31 posted on 02/07/2005 1:49:00 PM PST by somerville
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To: Catspaw

Sounds like you've been following Shanley's criminal career as closely as I have.


32 posted on 02/07/2005 1:50:23 PM PST by somerville
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To: Moral Hazard

The guy's testimony was very credible. I guess you had to be there. I cought a lot of it on Court TV. There were other victims but they chickened out on testifying. There was a ton of stuff besides the victim's testimony. There was a lot that the jury wasn't even allowed to know. The guy believes in man/boy love. I think the church had already made a settlement to some of the victims, but I may be wrong on that.


33 posted on 02/07/2005 1:51:53 PM PST by GOP_Proud (Those who proclaim tolerance have the least for my views.)
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To: somerville
The benefit of having a TV in my office....I'm just glad the jury believed the victim and Shanley will finally be put away.

One of the reasons I followed this case is that our former bishop got shoved out because he also protected Shanley when he was with the Boston diocese--and the bishop had an amazing memory loss when he was deposed.

34 posted on 02/07/2005 1:54:13 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: Former Military Chick

Thank God that the right verdict was reached. Unless Shanley sincerely repents for his crimes, this will not be the only "verdict" he'll be unhappy about.


35 posted on 02/07/2005 1:55:04 PM PST by richmwill
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To: Moral Hazard

Apparently you did not follow the trial. You need to read up on it a little before you make your assumptions.


36 posted on 02/07/2005 1:58:38 PM PST by GOP_Proud (Those who proclaim tolerance have the least for my views.)
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To: somerville
Shanley is a founding member of North American Man Boy Love Association.

Most of what I read about that charge seemed a bit thin, but what I found was the most interesting were papers turned over by the Diocese that indicated his thought process was along those lines.

He was extremely progressive liberal in his ideas.

My concern was the particular witness they used to base the entire case on. It seemed contrived.

Not that justice has not been done, mind you, but that they took a shortcut to get the verdict and put him away.

It is this propensity of late in our justice system regarding child molestations that bother me and it reminds me of the period of time back in the 80s when daycare centers were the big story.

It seems that justice is not as blind as it should be. This can affect the entire system and cause untold damage to innocent people who might be caught in the net of emotional justice.

37 posted on 02/07/2005 2:00:33 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: Cold Heat

So you're saying you believe he is guilty, but the evidence presented to the jury in this case was not adequate?


38 posted on 02/07/2005 2:02:54 PM PST by Tax-chick (Wielder of the Dread Words of Power, "Bless your heart, honey!")
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To: Tax-chick
I have not followed the case very closely, but what was presented in the MSM about the witness just seemed a bit weird.

Yes, I think they made the right call.

It may have been better is they had allowed all the other evidence in. Those who are not as familiar with this case as some of you are, may well see it as questionable.

That was my first reaction when I learned about the witnesses sudden memory recall and the pay days that many accusers were receiving from the Church.

The Church is at fault for that. They should have been prosecuting these occurrences from the start.

It just taints everything.

39 posted on 02/07/2005 2:10:20 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: richmwill

How true. If I recall correctly didn't another priest go to prison and someone murdered him.

Life will be tough for this defrocked man of the cloth.


40 posted on 02/07/2005 2:10:28 PM PST by Former Military Chick
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