Posted on 02/07/2005 10:09:57 AM PST by conservlib
Well thanks. now i know never to take you seriously from now on. and i was going to make a point to leave the theology out of it and just state historical fact. your the reason i prefer that lds is NOT considered christianity. i don't like being associated with other denominations who don't care for us. i'm sure you'd prefer it too.
You are wasting your breath about separation of church and state and establishment. The separation crowd has their collective heads in the sand and don't want to believe it.
And I'm sure that you're going to be a big success in the conversion department.
The ultimate goal of islam is to either convert eveyone to it or kill anyone who won't convert.
There's no room on this planet for a death cult like that.
convert their deserts to glass, then drill out the oil with diamond tipped drill rigs......
"Who is it who cannot see that the same who would consecrate Christianity above all other religions would then have to consecrate a particular sect of Christians above all other sects?" - James Madison
I agree. Islam is a scourge that needs to be dealt with.
Freedom of spreading ideologies should be a two way street. Do you have any problem with that. I think if their drive is to convert, and you challenge that by your own conversion missions, then we will have any even playing field.
It should be, but it isn't. And it never will be.
It will be interesting to see how much success christian missions to south east asia go in the post-tsunami relief 'era'
Oh, baby!
Nazism was a political party...this thing called Islam is, I suggest, far more dangerous.
I agree that we must fight it or die at its hands but, as you can see from the diverse opinions on this thread, the deadliness of Islam is not acknowledged by many.
My pleasure and you are making an important point btw.
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It is a matter of dealing with people who read and believe stuff like:
"Slay them wherever you find them...Idolatry is worse than carnage...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme." (Surah 2:190-)
"The only true faith in God's sight is Islam." (Surah 3:19)
"Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:103-)
"The Jews and Christians say: 'We are the children of God and His loved ones.' Say: 'Why then does He punish you for your sins?" (Surah 5:18)
"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)
"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)
"...make war on the leaders of unbelief...Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them..." (Surah 9:12-)
"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)
"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)
"Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Surah 48:29)
You do not negotiate with people whose religion allows them to lie and prevaricate with 'non-believers'. People who want you converted or dead you do not negotiate with.
You kill them before they kill you and your family.
The Muslim issue is no different from how we confronted Communism. The spineless amongst us used to bleat as sheep, "Better Red than Dead!".
These same spineless pussies will say that it is far better to surrender to Islam than to fight it.
Here I say to you liberals that it is YOU the Muslims will kill first.
They'll kill the Hollywood liberals first.
Then the academic liberals.
Then the homosexuals.
They'll enslave the lesbians and make them bear children all whilst wearing burqhas.
Then they'll come for the Jews and finish the job Hitler started.
Then it'll be onto the total annihilation of the Bahai - whom they hate more than the Jews if you can imagine that.
Then it'll be the Catholics and then the Christians.
And finally it'll be anyone else who does not show up at the Mosque for Friday prayers.
You do not negotiate with these people anymore than you negotiate with Nazis. You hunt them down to the ends of the earth and kill them where you find them.
Because they will not ever hesitate to do it to you.
I say we convert with bombs.
You are 100% correct. However, to get the ACLU, and the godless on board, I am including all Ideologies should be free with no force or counter force by any faith. Fair minded people should have no problem with that.
I seem to remember from history lessons that nazism was very much religious ideology as it was political. i mean, isn't that the point of totalirism? Goebbels seemed to invoke god quite a bit in his speeches. but i'm not an expert so correct me if i'm wrong.
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