paragraph 4, sections 7, which states, and I quote,
"any mention of our beloved Ann Coulter must include her image",
I offer the following images for your exclusive viewing pleasure:
Carville really is Gollum
Posted on 02/07/2005 10:09:57 AM PST by conservlib
Against furniture? He made a whip and went after the offenders. Even still, if all he had harmed was furniture, a violent rampage is a violent rampage.
As for values, it was Jesus' own actions. I don't try to make Jesus out to be some peacenick (or otherwise) because that's what I want him to be, He was who and what He was. In defence of the sanctity of His Father's temple, He saw His actions as appropriate.
A neo-Nazi I know showed me a collection of Hitler's paintings and while I reject the philosophy of their creator the talent inherently displayed was indisputable. His landscapes and cityscapes were very good but it was striking to me the lack of people in his art. His cityscapes, for instance, portrayed towns that wer clearly drawn in daylight, yet the streets are eerily empty. I wonder if he knew how apersonal this was?
I imagine a sketch of, say, Times Square absent any people and that is how I perceive Hitler's work. I find it revealing about the man that he avoided the personal interaction of drawing people.
It is a good plan isn`t it? I mean ask yourself; Why hasn`t Jihad been declared against Communist countries like China, Cuba or North Korea? Why don`t these Al-Qaeda creeps call for the death of Kim Jong Il, Castro instead of George Bush? Why don`t they burn the Korean flag or the Cuban flag? I just talked to a Cuban I work with and he told me to my face there are no Muslims in Cuba. What am I missing here?? Muslims say all the time the Koran says they must spread Islam and declare Jihad on those countries that prevent it. Well where are the suicide bombers in China? Where are the Jihadists in Cuba?
As you mention, it is apparent, I think, that Hitler is hiding (or avoiding) something behind the sterile subjects of his painting.
There is no doubt that people are more difficult (and more expressive) than buildings and landscapes, but I think A.H.'s work in impressive in retrospect.
But as to his politics, I think he turned his artistic energy into anger and we know the horror of his creation.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1338136/posts
Scenes like this one answer the question about why they aren't "open to mutual proselytizing."
"But by the fact you couldn't show me where Jesus wanted us to be violent against anyone shows me you cannot."
Now you're being a dumbass. I was trying to be nice and respectful (for a change) and you had to be a toad.
I never said Jesus advocated violence. He also never said to sit down and take it.
And since you're being a dumbass try these on for size:
Matthew 10:34 - Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. (KJV)
Luke 22:36 - Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. (KJV)
Luke 19:27 - But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
(KJV)
He did want forgiveness and love, but Jesus didn't say:
"Surrender your spine and become a wussie."
First of all, you presume that I am a Christian, I have never said one way or the other. However; Proud to tell of a "violent" Jesus? Not especially, I am only proud to tell of the real Jesus, the One who allowed himself to be tortured and murdered by others to give all who believe in Him eternal life! And I will not sugar coat Him because I prefer to believe in Jesus Christ Superstar.
John 2:15 (NIV)
So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.
I have never in my life seen anyone make a whip to use on furniture, and because Jesus was Holy and just, I doubt that he used it on the animals (wasn't their fault).
Luke 22:36 (NIV)
He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.
One doesn't normally need a sword to sing Kumbaya!
Matthew 10:34 (NIV)
“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
Kinda speaks for itself.
Revelation 19:15
Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.” [ Psalm 2:9] He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty.
I just don't even know where to start in Revelation...
As for your assertion that I (we) are trying to create a violent Jesus, I said before, He was what and who He was as recorded in scripture.
As for Jesus' "message", it was in fact: Forgiveness of sins through belief in Him and only Him as the one and only Son of God the Father. It is the hope of eternal life that makes our "religion" superior, that and truth. Yes He preached forgiveness, both for us an by us, but the Bible also says that there is a time for war as well as peace. I don't believe anyone said that they want war (especially perpetually) but it is, sometimes, necessary.
Go ahead and log off. The truth will still be the truth whether you choose to hear it or not.
I don't get it.
I see we have a common friend. Nice to know not everyone reinvents Jesus in their own image. (:
John, I believe the Commandment is more accurately translated into modern English as 'Thou Shalt Not Murder' - killing per se isn't wrong in the Christain faith.
I'm stealing that...
"Please do name at least one Christian terrorist organization?"
Off the top of my head: The IRA, the UVF, the UDA, split clearly, precisely and historically along nationalist and religious denominational principles. Murdering scumbags every one, but they all claim to have Jesus on their side.
Yeah, well....I get tired of people trying to turn Him into some kind of '70's hippie peacenick. Whatever righteousess demanded is what He delivered and will deliver.
Jesus didn't go to the cross to avoid conflict or confrontation. He did it because it was the only way to rescue our sorry hides.
God bless you Brother!
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