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1 posted on 02/05/2005 7:10:28 PM PST by churchillbuff
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Clint's making a movie. When John Huston made "The Maltese Falcon," he didn't mean you should go out and murder people and steal priceless artifacts.


2 posted on 02/05/2005 7:12:34 PM PST by JennysCool (I was so naive as a kid I used to sneak behind the barn and do nothing. -Johnny Carson)
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Yes, it is an agenda-driven movie, pushing assisted suicide. Hugh Hewitt's exposed that, as has Michael Medved. The libs are trying to keep it a secret so that SOMEONE will go see it, because otherwise any sane person would not bother. I mean, so what if the acting is terrific and the costumes??? SO WHAT? Is what I say.


4 posted on 02/05/2005 7:13:16 PM PST by bboop
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I don't want to start anything here but like the guy on FOX, I can't remember his name, we both loved the movie. I for one knowing a little bit about Clint, don't think he is pushing anything but a story......I don't think we should start seeing things that are not there. It was a great movie and don't think we should start seeing conspiracy theories everywhere we look.....


5 posted on 02/05/2005 7:13:28 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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It's a good flick. There is no agenda. There is an assisted suicide at the end.


9 posted on 02/05/2005 7:16:41 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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It's a story. You can agree or disagree, that's what makes it so good.


11 posted on 02/05/2005 7:17:20 PM PST by Hildy ( To work is to dance, to live is to worship, to breathe is to love.)
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Rush has expressed disgust for the movie because of its seeming support for terminating people who so desire. The main character is injured in an accident and doesn't want to live with her permanent state of disability. So, the answer to your question is yes.


15 posted on 02/05/2005 7:21:11 PM PST by KCrouch
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Roman Catholics who have seen the movie: How do you square the use of the respirator with paragraph 2278 of the Catechism, 2nd edition which reads:

"2278 Discontinuing medical procedures that are burdensome, dangerous, extraordinary, or disproportionate to the expected outcome can be legitimate; it is the refusal of "over-zealous" treatment.Here one does not will to cause death; one's inability to impede it is merely accepted. The decisions should be made by the patient if he is competent and able or, if not, by those legally entitled to act for the patient, whose reasonable will and legitimate interests must always be respected."


20 posted on 02/05/2005 7:24:48 PM PST by hc87
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I agree with JennysCool. From everything I have read, I don't think Million Dollar Baby is "pushing" assisted suicide in the way that, say Kinsey pushes omnisexuality, but it certainly doesn't condemn it.

It may very well be a great picture, but, nonetheless, one that I will never pay to watch. If it's on free TV and I have nothing better to do, I'll give it a look. I did the same with Saving Private Ryan and was amazed. Spielberg IS a genius -- just a misguided one.

22 posted on 02/05/2005 7:26:22 PM PST by L.N. Smithee (NHL Owners and Players: Take the advice of Benjamin Franklin - "Unite, or die.")
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I saw it and it was a wonderful movie. A real tear-jerker.

Eastwood has already gone on record as saying he had no hidden motive for making the movie except that he liked it.

Sheeesh!

31 posted on 02/05/2005 7:34:58 PM PST by Nachum
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why can't they just make a movie about sweaty girls in sports bras?


39 posted on 02/05/2005 7:40:07 PM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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Oh, by the way, we may differ here, but thanks for starting a great thread and interesting discussion!


49 posted on 02/05/2005 7:49:07 PM PST by JennysCool (I was so naive as a kid I used to sneak behind the barn and do nothing. -Johnny Carson)
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So is this the plot twist the critics are making such a point not to talk about that you are putting in the title? Can you say "spoiler?"


56 posted on 02/05/2005 7:57:02 PM PST by TN4Liberty (American... conservative... southern.... It doesn't get any better than this.)
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He's just trying to solve the Social Security dilemma.


62 posted on 02/05/2005 8:04:37 PM PST by kittymyrib
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There is no such thing as "assisted suicide". Maybe "consensual murder", but if another person is doing the killing, it isn't suicide, regardless of how much the Left wants to twist the language.

"Homophobia" isn't about phobia, "hate crimes" aren't crimes because hate is involved, "pro choice" isn't about choice, and "assisted suicide" is not suicide.
69 posted on 02/05/2005 8:18:42 PM PST by LexBaird ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats" --Jubal Harshaw (RA Heinlein))
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If you haven't seen it yet, go see 'Coach Carter'. Based on a true story, and it's great.


78 posted on 02/05/2005 8:57:53 PM PST by connectthedots
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It also has a very strong anti welfare message, so I'd say it balances out.
79 posted on 02/05/2005 9:00:34 PM PST by Boiling point (If God had not meant for man to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat!)
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The movie is great for the first 90 minutes. It's the last 45 that stand it on its head. For the movie to portray assisted suicide sympathetically, a lot (IMO) "forced perspective" is brought in to the film to make the Frankie character do the deed.

Let me put it this way. Christopher Reeve, in real life, found something to live for. The movie doesn't allow its fictional heroine to find the same hope.


90 posted on 02/05/2005 11:31:27 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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Micheal Medved said if you don't like the Passion's premise
,don't see it. Why can't that concept be equally applied with this movie?

Eastwood made a movie based on a book. A book he didn't write. Was he supposed to re-write the book?


97 posted on 02/06/2005 6:56:41 AM PST by Rakkasan1 (john f'n kerry-the original 'million dollar baby'.)
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