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Colorado Teens Fined for Giving Cookies to Neighbor
Yahoonews.com ^ | 2/05/05 | unknown

Posted on 02/05/2005 12:26:24 PM PST by beyond the sea

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To: beyond the sea
The Denver Post newspaper reported on Friday that the girls had decided to stay home and bake the cookies rather than go to a dance where there might be cursing and drinking.

          How curious are you about who the complainant, Wanita Renea Young, is? If the report is true and the girls didn't want to go to a party where there would be cursing and drinking, I think we can safely say that they are not being raised by left wing liberal parents. I'd say the girls are moral, upright, citizens. The report doesn’t say, by my instincts tell me that the girls are also Christians, and Wanita Renea Young is not. But I guess we will never know unless some Freeper lives next door to Ms. Young and fills in the details.

          As long as I am speculating, what is the chance that Ms. Young is not married, or perhaps is living with a “partner”? Is SHE a liberal? Wouldn’t you just love to know the real story behind the story?

    But Young said she was frightened because the two had knocked on her door at about 10:30 p.m. and run off after leaving the cookies.

    Ok, I realize that I'm not a literary genius, but either "run off" is a typo, or Ms. Young is not speaking good English. I'm not even going to get into what that means to me because it's irrelevant, but i have my suspicions, especially since the reports is silent on the subject.  

    At any rate that is not the point, can you envision two young girls, on a mission of love, "running off" after leaving the candy on the porch? Yes, actually I can. Assuming that they didn't want the credit for their good deed, or they thought it would be more a surprise if Ms. Young just found the candy sitting on the porch. 

    Now we don't know yet how the candy was packaged, but let's assume the worse, perhaps it was in a plain cardboard box, or a paper bag, with no indication as to what the contents might be? I ask you, would a reasonable person of ordinary sensibilities be likely to become so hysterical that she would need medical treatment after seeing the package on her front porch? I don't think so. I'm assuming of course that the neighborhood has not had a rash of front porch bombings. In a bad neighborhood, perhaps at night you would not want to cross paths with- well I can't say or I might be accused of racial profiling and bigotry, but let's just say it's a person who we know from statistics is more likely to be a drug addict than say Mother Theresa. 

    So to speculate even further, since the Judge evidently thought that a person of ordinary sensibilities would need medical treatment, I assume he is a liberal? Appointed by a democrat, or elected as a democrat. I don't think that statement show bias on my part, just experience. What do you think? You read the papers. You know who makes the ridiculous decisions.

   To Be Continued?

41 posted on 02/05/2005 2:13:25 PM PST by watchdog_writer
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To: joedownthestreet

You're so right, Joe. An upside down world. Maybe 10:30 adds to the spookiness, but the girls were on their rounds and by definition, they're teenagers...thinking things through absolutely clearly is something they are still learning to do. But what lesson will they learn from this? I hope that all they conclude is that there are some nutty and greedy people in the world.


42 posted on 02/05/2005 2:21:42 PM PST by The Westerner
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To: AntiGuv

"I can see why a woman might be upset by the anonymous gift."

Your kidding right? Please tell me you're kidding, because if you're not, then you need to move out of your neighborhood, it must be run by drug lords


43 posted on 02/05/2005 2:24:53 PM PST by watchdog_writer
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To: traderrob6

If this is a glowing example of the need for reigning in the Judiciary, I don't know what is

Ditto


44 posted on 02/05/2005 2:25:58 PM PST by watchdog_writer
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To: beyond the sea
"These girls were fined for this? This country has lost its collective mind!"

More like the judge is a liberal yahoo that has no common sense.

I bet the girls could have walked if they used the insanity defense, it seems to be working for Andria Yates who drowned her five children and that didn't send her husband to the hospital with a heart attack?
45 posted on 02/05/2005 2:29:49 PM PST by watchdog_writer
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To: watchdog_writer

It's the extremist Judicial belief that if someone is harmed, someone must pay. Regardless if any determinable negligence occured. That is a dangerous belief that promotes incessant litigation


46 posted on 02/05/2005 2:30:54 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: watchdog_writer

No, I am not kidding. They could easily appear to have been a 'gift' from a stalker.

My own neighborhood here feels perfectly safe to me. I frequently don't even lock the door (I know that's unwise).


47 posted on 02/05/2005 2:31:22 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: watchdog_writer

She's married. Hubby was out of town. One report said she was home with her elderly mom and 18yr. old daughter. Her hubby now has a restraining order against him from one of the girls family for harrassing phone calls.


48 posted on 02/05/2005 2:34:09 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: joedownthestreet
Oy, I just can't get off this story. Let's compare two threads posted on the same day: "Teens fined for giving cookies to neighbor" and "3 Guantanamo Detainees Ordered Released"

Does anyone else think something is seriously wrong here?

Well when you consider the facts, the girls could have been terrorists leaving a IED on the poor woman's porch, whereas the 3 detainees didn't do anything to deserve punishment. (sarcasm)

49 posted on 02/05/2005 2:35:24 PM PST by watchdog_writer
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To: AntiGuv

Upset enough to go the hospital? I don't think so. This is a travesty.


50 posted on 02/05/2005 2:36:16 PM PST by republicofdavis
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To: republicofdavis

Well, I already said that this was all rather silly, but there are some rather high-strung, foolish people out there...

That being said, how do we know what's in this woman's past that might make her especially skittish about this kind of thing? She may've been an abuse victim.


51 posted on 02/05/2005 2:38:33 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Sooth2222
"If there's any move to pass the hat for an attorney for the girls to appeal this bizarre ruling, I'll throw in my $20!"

I bet some attorney will offer to represent the girl pro-bono. Not all attorneys are atheists, only the ones who volunteer for the ACLU.
Furthermore, the appeal will be successful,since the judges decision was obviously against the weight of the evidence. I'm quite sure the woman didn't have a doctor testify to a causal relationship between the gift and her reaction. I would say that's pretty much a cinch to win on appeal.
52 posted on 02/05/2005 2:40:17 PM PST by watchdog_writer
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
I can't wait to graduate so I can fight crime like this. Pluse I could seize the cookies!

The only way justice can be served in this case is for someone to put a gift on the girl's porch!

That would serve them right! (sarcasm)
53 posted on 02/05/2005 2:42:53 PM PST by watchdog_writer
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To: AntiGuv

You may be right. But as a matter of principle do we want to make our societal decisions based on the impact on the most skittish amongst us? There is something known as a "reasonable person" standard. That should have been applied here.


54 posted on 02/05/2005 2:44:10 PM PST by republicofdavis
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To: wogworld

"Sick, greedy, psycho bitch. That goes double to the lawyer that handled the case and triple to the judge."

I seriously doubt that a lawyer was involved. In most states lawyers are not allowed in small claims court.

It seems like the put judges with small brains in small claims court.


55 posted on 02/05/2005 2:44:32 PM PST by watchdog_writer
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To: republicofdavis
There is something known as a "reasonable person" standard. That should have been applied here.

Well, that's an excellent point - and I don't think the judgment has very much merit. All I really wanted to say to begin with is that the girls should've signed the cards!

56 posted on 02/05/2005 2:46:31 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: beyond the sea
"Does anyone else think something is seriously wrong here?
>Would you rather this be about the Super Bowl?"

Are you saying that these girls intend to terrorize the fans at half time by leaving cookies on their seats when they go for a brewsky?
57 posted on 02/05/2005 2:47:13 PM PST by watchdog_writer
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To: beyond the sea

"Going with the Patriots. How about you?"

I was going with the Pats but I just heard that the girls intend to put cookies in their lockers. No way the Pats will be able to compose themselves by game time.


58 posted on 02/05/2005 2:49:37 PM PST by watchdog_writer
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To: AntiGuv

On that we agree!


59 posted on 02/05/2005 2:53:56 PM PST by republicofdavis
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To: AntiGuv
"I frequently don't even lock the door (I know that's unwise)."

Seems to be working so far? Why lock when you don't have to?

Ok, I'll rethink what you had to say about how two teenage girls might be stalking this 46 year old flake?

I just thought about it, Sorry, I still can't seem to grasp the problem.
60 posted on 02/05/2005 2:54:43 PM PST by watchdog_writer
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