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To: Tench_Coxe
I want to see a definite prediction that bears fruit, i.e., starting with simple organisms, without purposeful prior selection, a demonstration of enviromental conditions forcing a change in species.

Typicaly human investigators don't live long enough to observe speciation in animals. However, the rapid evolution response of bacteria to the stressor of antibiotics is a well-documented phenomenon that has been known for many years.

343 posted on 02/05/2005 8:09:54 PM PST by Rudder
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To: Rudder
"Typicaly human investigators don't live long enough to observe speciation in animals. However, the rapid evolution response of bacteria to the stressor of antibiotics is a well-documented phenomenon that has been known for many years."

True. But propose an experiment. Take a bacteria with flagella, then create environmental conditions in which those flagella are not conducive to functioning well in that environment ( or, conversely, take a simple cell organism without flagella, and produce an environment in which they are necessary to function ), and slowly change the environment to produce the necessary changes ( intermediate forms ) for the characteristics to evolve.
Successful, this establishes a certain baseline case to formulate prediction, and have it verified by discovery. I haven't seen this yet.

352 posted on 02/05/2005 8:18:08 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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