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Get as much what before you are dead?

Whatever you want! It is only rational and very futile!

I see, however, that your lack of perspective does not prevent you from arrogantly deciding that you know how atheists thing.

I am referring to a rational conclusion based on the atheistic perspective. There is no rational basis for goodness and love with atheism. It is only a dog-eat-dog world. The fittest survive so why worry about the weak? The only rational reason to care about someone else is what you get out of it. Please explain any other logic?

I am not claiming to know how all atheists believe. I am only claiming that one must be irrational to be an atheist -- if one looks at their beliefs rationally!

I am only claiming that one must be irrational to be an atheist -- if one looks at their beliefs rationally!

I'm with you on this one 777. But, remember, we're not capable of rationalism.

Do you know what is more irrational than being an atheist? Teaching that to little kids and calling that teaching a 'good idea'.

Whatever you want!

I want a million dollars. How am I to get that?

It is only rational and very futile!

Why is it rational?

I am referring to a rational conclusion based on the atheistic perspective.

And given that I'm an atheist who does not behave as you suggest nor do I know any atheists who behave as you suggest, I say that you're flat-out wrong.

There is no rational basis for goodness and love with atheism.

But you just said that it is "rational" for us to take whatever we want! What if we "want" to experience love? You've just contradicted yourself in your attempt to demonize atheists through your arrogant presumptions.

The fittest survive so why worry about the weak?

What if I feel sorry for them?

The only rational reason to care about someone else is what you get out of it

So what if I get a positive emotional response out of it? I suspect that is the motive for many charitable works, including those done by Christians.

I am only claiming that one must be irrational to be an atheist -- if one looks at their beliefs rationally!

And I'm telling you that you're deciding ahead of time what you want atheists to be, and ignoring relevant factors that might prove you wrong.

"I am referring to a rational conclusion based on the atheistic perspective. There is no rational basis for goodness and love with atheism. It is only a dog-eat-dog world. The fittest survive so why worry about the weak? The only rational reason to care about someone else is what you get out of it. Please explain any other logic?"

I'm not an atheist, but I find fault with your logic. My dog is an atheist, however, and he loves me. He is altruistic toward me. The source of love may well be God as it says in the Bible, but it also says God loves his creations, regardless of their faith.

I can see goodness as the result of our being inherently social. It's necessary to survive in the social community to which all human beings are dependent---a condition that evolved.

To equate atheism with behaving monstrously is using a straw man, which is a rather destestable device to use in a honest debate.