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So are you claiming that whales have evolved into a higher organism than those that have vestigial hips and legs? Will we some day become whales?
The overwhelming pattern is that organisms appear fully fuormed in fossil records, with variations clustered around a mean, and without transitional stages leading up to them. The fossil record as a whole gives persuasive evidence against Darwinism.

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So are you claiming that whales have evolved into a higher organism than those that have vestigial hips and legs?

Whales certainly do better in their environment than mammals with hips and legs.

Will we some day become whales?

Why would anyone expect this?

[Rudder]

So are you claiming that whales have evolved into a higher organism than those that have vestigial hips and legs? Will we some day become whales?

No wonder this thread is ponderous! Can't you read without twisting things ass backwards?

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I'm saying there is a whole fossil record of animals preceding the whale who demonstrate diminishing limb structures. You screwed up on the second law interpretation, here is another example of where you are myopic.

At some point, your strict anti-evolutionist interpretation of the world will crack and fail. I'd like to suggest to you that this should not affect your faith in God at all, that there are mixtures of creationism and evolution that coexist quite easily. But you will have to open your eyes to understand the bigger picture, and that will be disturbing to say the least.

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http://www.edwardtbabinski.us/mpm/mpm_whale_limb.html

That's a link to a discussion of the vestigial pelvic girdle in the modern humback whale. I will look for earlier fossil pics with more developed systems.