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To: USF; ks99; An.American.Expatriate

Malaysian who has gone through the secondary stage of schooling (did not miss history classes), already knows that islam was not the original religion of the malay peninsula. We do not carry the beliefs that our country was originally/heavily influenced by islam. Islam only came to Malaya around 1400 or so, when the last prince of the sri wijaya empire converted to islam. Contrary to what other nation believes, malaysian particularly the malays ( which are muslim) are the most excited people of this discovery, and of course the historian/researchers that has been searching/studying more than 10 years for all things that lead to these hinduism/buddhism ancients places were mostly malays (which again are muslim). The malaysian goverment was as eager as the researchers and the rest of malaysian people in anticipating the rewritten of the history of the ancient malay history/ies. Isn't this kewllll or what.....

Oh......and former non-islamic history never have and never will weakens our "supposed" claims..........we are more open-minded than that :).

To learn more of this discovery go to thestar.com.my or related links or search for "the lost city of kota gelanggi" in google :).

Thanks for reading.


20 posted on 02/07/2005 9:22:48 PM PST by Labratz (A local who afraid to generalize........)
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To: Labratz

Links on Lost City,


http://news.google.com.my/news?q=the+lost+city+of+kota+gelanggi&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=nn&oi=newsr

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2005/2/6/nation/10105045&sec=nation

http://www.snni.org/cgi-bin/snni2/list_item.cgi?peserta/malaysia/st0205_1.txt


21 posted on 02/07/2005 9:35:32 PM PST by Labratz (A local who afraid to generalize........)
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To: Labratz

Thanks for the info.

I realize that not all (or even most!) Muslims think that Islam "always was" - but, especially in the ME / Africa, this is a prevailing theme - most lnotably in the press.

I congratulate you and your people on this discovery and hope that the knowledge obtained from the expedition will shed new light on an ancient culture.


22 posted on 02/08/2005 12:36:13 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Life is sexually transmitted.)
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To: Labratz; An.American.Expatriate
Terima kasih banyak Labratz.

I appreciate your input.

I lived over there myself as an expat and keep in touch with the news from those that go back out there as well as in the media.

I'm glad that you are one of the more "open minded" ones. Unfortunately on my visits out of KL to the east coast I often wondered into the PAS strongholds to try and understand the phenomenon of their success and how a "moderate" Islamic country like Malaysia managed to get sharia implemented in parts of its territory like Terengganu and Kelantan.

It was the unpleasant encounters I had with the PAS supporters I had in mind, as well as how they rationalize their arguments for sharia, and Islam in all aspects of their lives, when I made my references above, as well as the age old arguments in the middle east about "whose land it was originally" and all the repercussions that follow.

I'm also well aware that what some of the Bumiputra kids are being taught in schools in the east coast where they have heavily censored (in accordance with sharia) school text books, is radically different from the more developed, ethnically mixed, and dare I say "liberal" west coast where they get a more "enlightened" education.

It's great that you took the time to log into Freep to comment on this. It's good to have your perspective on this as a local, whether you're a Bumiputra or not.

I wish you guys all the best with this discovery and I look forward to keeping up with new developments there.
23 posted on 02/08/2005 8:54:02 AM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: Labratz

next genaration of students will only know that There was malaysia.......bcos of our that what there is the books, when the fiding is done and with Internet..the whole will know the ancient history of the EAST ASIA ( HINDU/BUDDIST),
As usual...they won't admit.


24 posted on 02/21/2005 7:52:50 PM PST by nokiaman69
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