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To: HolgerDansk

If subsidies disappeared tomorrow we'd still be paying the same amount for bread and steak, only we'd be paying efficient large farms and ranches to grow the food instead of wasting money propping up small family farms that can't compete on the world market. Subsidies don't keep prices down; overproduction all around the world does a good enough job already. All they do is pay the buggy whip^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H family farmers to hang on for their next welfare check. And then the big farms go along for the ride, collecting subsidies they don't need because it's built into the system.

If transit in western states is such a good deal, why is Greyhound pulling out of places like northern Minnesota? How is it cost-effective to run trains in places where buses can't even break even and air connections are maintained through federal essential service guarantees?


4,565 posted on 02/03/2005 10:46:26 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: HostileTerritory
If subsidies disappeared tomorrow we'd still be paying the same amount for bread and steak, only we'd be paying efficient large farms and ranches to grow the food instead of wasting money propping up small family farms that can't compete on the world market.

Not if ag workers were paid as well as the inflated wages of Masachusetts, obviously. In any event, FYI, most of the Ag subsidy goes to Iowa, and not ND/MT, where there are very few family farms left. Oh, and also FWIW, as of a few months ago, the US became a net importer of food. Hope that makes you happy.

If transit in western states is such a good deal, why is Greyhound pulling out of places like northern Minnesota?

Amtrak hasn't served Northern Minnesota since the 1970s, and even then, that train was state subsidized.

4,569 posted on 02/03/2005 11:05:12 AM PST by HolgerDansk ("Oh Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.)
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