Posted on 01/31/2005 9:14:49 PM PST by TAdams8591
Thank you, pc. I thought of it but didn't have the time.
Of course not.
There are times when extraordinary means (and a feeding tube is not extraordinary means)like heart and lung machines really do cruelly prolong the life of people who may otherwise be dead. Such as in the very elderly, where there are absolutely no brain waves (and thus no response whatsoever)and they have been sick for a long time.
That is not Terri's situation. She is young and responding and might have been in far better condition (long, long ago) if Michael had gotten her the rehabilitative treatment he promised!
Furthermore, She is not ill but disabled. And obviously after all she has been through the last 14 years, if she wanted to die, she would have. TERRI WANTS TO LIVE.
Let's see how the next week works out before we think about a Valentine Thread. We may need to continue lobbying instead of doing a Valentine To Terri. February's too dicey imo, not because I'm worried but because there's so much other stuff we need to do and we need to bring more freepers to the table.
Now's I'm hearing through the grapevine that there may be a Terri Concert in downtown Clearwater. I have no details at this time.
I think that Terri did eye blinks yes and no at a local hospital. The pneumonia bout or something.
I wish I could talk to him face-to-face.
I think you are wise and right. Maybe just a Valentine thread on Valentines day.
Impeachment of Judges is done by the Fla House of Representives. Interesting. We haven't been calling and asking for JUDGE GREER'S IMPEACHMENT. Maybe we need to do that if he keeps ruling against Terri. The Rule of Law in Tampa Bay is meaningless at this point. GREER IS A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER TO TERRI.
I know exactly what you mean.
This is a Valentine thread. I'm going to put heart pictures here.
Sounds good to me!
Remember the letter on my FR page, it's been posted a few times. . . but maybe not often enough.
http://www.freerepublic.com/~tutstar/
House Speaker Allan G. Bense
420 The Capitol
402 South Monroe Street
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1300
Dear House Speaker Bense:
I would appreciate your response to a serious matter. It has come to light that 6th Circuit Judge George W. Greer and Judge Douglas Baird did not legally qualify for the election as prescribed by Florida law. According to documents obtained by The Empire Journal neither judge filed their oath as prescribed by law.
The following information in italics is excerpted from http://theempirejournal.com/documents_of_schiavo_judges_give.htm
Greer was presumably elected in 1998 and sought reelection this year. Baird was elected to a six year term in 2000.
In addition to paying the requisite fees, judicial candidates must file a candidate’s oath, a loyalty oath, the completed form for the appointment of campaign treasurer and designation of campaign depository, and a financial disclosure statement.
Statutes also require that each judicial candidate, including an incumbent judge, file a statement within 10 days after filing the appointment of campaign treasurer and campaign depository, stating that he or she has read and understands the requirements of the Florida Code of Judicial Conduct. Neither Greer nor Baird has ever filed such a statement, according to the Office of General Counsel for the Department of State.
A review of the oaths signed by Greer in 1998 and 2004 as well as Baird in 2000 reveal that the documents are allegedly not in the proper form and were not filed within the requisite time period meaning that neither Greer nor Baird qualified for office. However, both have signed statements under penalty of perjury that they did qualify for office. (See http://www.theempirejournal.com/judges_in_schiavo_case_maynot_have_qualified_for_Office.htm )
Over the past several months, The Empire Journal has submitted several Freedom of Information Law requests for documents concerning the alleged qualification of Greer and Baird. However, the Department of State had not provided copies of the appointments of campaign treasurers.
D.H. Penton, assistant general counsel for Florida’s Department of State, has now produced Greer’s filing for 1998---which was filed Oct. 23, 1997, well outside the window period for qualifying. Greer’s 2004 appointment of campaign treasurer was filed on Jan. 8, 2004.
However, both of Greer’s filings are outside the window period for filing, lending further proof that he did not qualify for office and could not appear on the ballot.
Baird’s filing was not done until July 5, 2000, also well outside the qualifying period.
Even judges have to comply with the law.
The Empire Journal had asked the Office of General Counsel to take action against Greer and Baird based on the alleged improper documents and failure to qualify for election but in a response to the newspaper on Dec. 10, Penton said that “as to your questions regarding Judges Greer and Baird’s qualifications, the Department is unaware of any deficiencies in their filings” The attorney said that if the newspaper had “concerns about the judges, it would be to your advantage to consult an attorney for guidance on how to proceed”.
Judge Greer has violated FS 38.10 four times by not disqualifying himself from the Schiavo case when it was requested. The statute states whenever a party to any action or proceeding makes and files an affidavit stating fear that he or she will not receive a fair trial in the court where the suit is pending on account of the prejudice of the judge of that court against the applicant or in favor of the adverse party, the judge shall proceed no further, but another judge shall be designated in the manner prescribed by the laws of this state for the substitution of judges for the trial of causes in which the presiding judge is disqualified.
Confidence in the judicial system is quickly eroding in Florida as a result of the actions of Greer, Baird, and the Florida Supreme Court. The legislature’s function is to pass laws. The courts are to interpret the laws and judges are overstepping their boundaries. If the law to keep Terri Schiavo’s feeding tube intact is unconstitutional, then why isn’t the law that included a feeding tube in the “life-prolonging” procedures unconstitutional as well.
The courts are unchecked. As you can see in the above excerpt from The Empire Journal the attorney with the Dept of State who provided the requested documentation suggested getting an attorney to pursue the matter further. This is outrageous! The Dept of State can see in black and white that paperwork is not in order and will do nothing about it. This can’t be. The Judicial Qualifications Commission is akin to a fox guarding the henhouse and the public doesn’t have confidence in them to do anything about this situation.
The citizens of Florida are counting on you, the legislators, to do what must be done. I’m requesting that Judge Greer and Judge Baird be impeached without delay. Judge Greer didn’t legally qualify for office and should never have sat on the bench one minute. Greer has violated Florida Statutes by not removing himself from the Schiavo case when requested, has not required the guardian to abide by requirements in the statutes. Judge Baird stated publicly that Terri’s law was unconstitutional before hearing the case, his mind was made up already. Bias must not be allowed, neither can disregard for the requirements for the very important position of a judge. If the judges are not paying attention to the detail of their own filing requirements and expectations under the statutes how can they be expected to follow the more serious issues of law? I think we are at a crucial point in Florida as far as the judicial system is concerned. It is up to you to do something about it.
With respect,
Bookmark
Blink and you live
Thursday April 15, 2004
http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/feature/story/0,,1191591,00.html
I will read the thread.
Since Greer didn't legally qualify to be judge, wouldn't this make all his rulings moot?
If those peoples serving time because of his rulings knew of this, they and their attorneys should be irate and have reason for appeals and new trials.
I do believe you're right! Sounds just like him.
Prayer bump for Terri!
"If the courts continue to rule that the governor and the legislative branch have no input, then perhaps Bush should take Terri Schiavo into protective custody under Florida Statute 415.1051."
(2) EMERGENCY PROTECTIVE SERVICES INTERVENTION.--If the department has reasonable cause to believe that a vulnerable adult is suffering from abuse or neglect that presents a risk of death or serious physical injury to the vulnerable adult and that the vulnerable adult lacks the capacity to consent to emergency protective services, the department may take action under this subsection. If the vulnerable adult has the capacity to consent and refuses consent to emergency protective services, emergency protective services may not be provided.
From KDD in Florida locale on Freep (clearwater/tampa local):
KDD:
Judge Greer was just relected with 70% of the vote in Pinellas County. He is a Republican who has always had a good reputation in the county and is a highly respected judge here. The high level turnout may have been due to the slander that has been directed at him from outsiders to the county. Most of the locals, and there are 3 million of us in Pinellas county, have followed the Schivo case from the start and agree with Greers ruling's in this case. All the noise is coming from groups who do not even live here. There are a lot of eldery people who fear becoming comatose and being kept alive as a vegetable. This is a rational fear as science has devised ways to keep the body alive long after there is any mental cognition. They wish no such burden on their family either. I have also read speculation on these boards that Michael Schivo beat or strangled or did some other violence to Terri to cause her injuries. To accuse someone absent proof is bearing false witness and I've seen much of that from those who disagree with the court's ruling on these boards. Those who engage in such and at the same time call themselves Christian should be ashamed of themselves. Such stated speculation is nothing but slander. JUST THE FACTS please.
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