Posted on 01/31/2005 11:22:51 AM PST by Dane
Rush going to give his comments about immigration.
If you really stop and think about it, they're not.
Anyway, I am not sure that Bush really understands the base on this one. There are many concerns we have which are not being addressed, with national security being top priority. I felt that him and Rove did not understand the base's feeling towards protecting traditional marraige either.
I have the answer to the question: How can you solve the border problem and keep Republicans united.
The short answer is: State that the goal the US government is turn all the world's deserts green.
The deserts will be turned green by doing the research to kill the cost of water desalination and water transport such that the cost of water in Pennsylvania, Virginia, Ireland, Poland, or Japan is the same as the cost of water in Arizona, Nevada, Eastern Washington and Oregon, the northern deserts of Mexico, central Australia, southern Algeria or central Saudia Arabia.
Turn the deserts of Mexico green and you double & triple the true size of Mexico. Under such circumstances how wise do you think the Federales in Mexico City would think their policy of vacating their countryside.
The US policy to turn the World's deserts green -- in effect would change Mexican assumptions about the future of Mexico.
This has been done before. It was called Star Wars.
Ronald Reagan's Star Wars won the Cold War by changing the assumptions about the future on the part of the Bad Guys. Star Wars meant the Soviets could no longer rely on their missles getting through to the USA and they could not affort to build a defense shield of their own. So they quit.
Now twenty years later Star Wars is still in trials. Who knows. Maybe 20 years from now a system will be place. But you know, people still expect a defense shield to happen in the great by and by.
How about turning the deserts green? This will also change assumptions about the future on the part of Mexicans both in the USA and Mexico. The Mexicans will not want to send Mexicans north and the Mexicans north of the border will know that the repbulicans are working for the future of their homeland as well as the USA. Under such circumstances maintaining the US Mexican border is merely a technical matter.
Likely too, an announced US policy of turning the world's deserts green would have some reprecussions in the middle east. Oh and also it would increase the effective size of the USA by one third.
The cost of water desalination has dropped by a third in the last 10 years. Now the best water desalination technology brings in bulk fresh water for about 650@acre foot. (That compares with government subsidized fresh water from the Colorado River for Los Angeles at $450@acre foot. Fresh water in New York and Virginia costs between $25 & $45 @ acre foot.)
The costs of water desalination and transport can be brought down in about the same time frame as hydrogen is expected to be competitive with gasoline --or about 10-20 years--and cheap hydrogen will solve the problem of water transport as water can be used to fuel the pumps that push water inland for a thousand miles.
Interestingly water desalination research problems and solutions are much like those of hydrogen research. What scientists are currently doing in Hydrogen research is using computer mathematical modeling of molecules to discover the cheapest/fastest/best semipermiable membranes and catalsts to lower the cost of breaking out(enabled by the catalyst) and purifying (enabled by the semipermiable membrane) hydrogen from the H20 molecule. Once they have the computer model they like --they build the material. There are some truely awsome research tools around today that were not available even five years ago.
Water desalination also requires better/faster/cheaper catalysts and semipermiable membranes to pull the pull the NaCl (salt) out of solution with the H2) water.Consequently the cost of funding water desalination would be about the same as funding for hydrogen research--or about 1+ billion over five years.
Senator Frist & Domenici are going to be announcing a major water initiative (S 2658) on about the 10th of February. The iniative will mainly be aimed at consolidating the various water agencies around the government in the DoD, DoE and Interior for the purpose of water desalination research. Frist is from Tennessee home of the TVA so he knows something about the relationship between water policy and ruling parties.
Frist and Domenici could use an over arching policy idea.
How about turning all the world's deserts Green.
They pay some taxes, such as sales taxes, hotel and motel taxes, and taxes on other items.
"You are avoiding the question, so I'll rephrase...
Do you agree that illegal immigration should be stopped?"
In my opinion, yes.
I don't need Rush to tell me what to think.
I don't need Rush to tell me what to think.Neither do I. But it's nice to think that he's preaching the truth (in this instance) to his 20M audience
Rush is spot on, thank God!
This is not good news for pro-illegal (R)'s.
BTTT!
Sorry, Dane .. I misunderstood your post ;-)
Yes.
I believe the first step is enforcement of current laws with no Amnesty till that occurs.
I've argued this before. My concern -- and belief -- is that unless the laws are changed they will be ignored which will mean status quo which means disaster. If state and local officials give the command to LEOs to crackdown MAYBE the problem get be solved. But you have governors trying to dish out drivers licenses to illegals and mayors -- including those of NYC & LA as I understand it -- telling cops to ignore residency when making stops.
If Bush's calculation is that a guest worker plan is more likely to bring order to the border than a fight with state officials -- from whom he needs not just their stated agreement but active, highly motivated support -- I'd have to say it's mine also.
Being legal also means you get minimum wage and employment rights. It comes down to the motivation and ability of our LEOs to enforce the law. I don't see it as possible for 10-plus million illegals. It would be for a couple of hundred thousand.
I have no idea if Dubya's plan will succeed but it can't be worse than present circumstances.
Please explain why criminals who break our laws should be rewarded.
Tonk, I like you. I followed your posts with a lot of interest during the campaign...but I have to ask - what does Hanoi John have to do with illegal immigration?
Okay, maybe he illegally immigrated into Cambodia or something.... :)
The current situation is untenable, since the law is being scoffed at atrociously. I favor a guest-worker program PLUS proper border control and arrest of ALL illegals outside the guest-worker program.
They will have to pay income taxes.
I can't see how they are being rewarded. They may be escaping a prescribed punishment but how is that not happening now?
Words of wisdom.
They are illegal right now. Under a de facto amnesty, they will be rewarded with "temporary" legalization.
Do you support illegals currently "escaping a prescribed punishment"? If so, then you do not support the rule of law.
Do you support illegals currently "escaping a prescribed punishment"? If so, then you do not support the rule of law
Danm right, throw an other wise good person out of the country for the "crime" of accepting a job of cleaning your or your countyrman's toilet.
That dirty rotten bastard.(/sarcasm)
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