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Freemasonry's Influence in Europe
Zenit.org ^ | January 30, 2005 | Zenit

Posted on 01/30/2005 7:07:08 PM PST by AncientAirs

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To: PresbyRev; ExSoldier

Some references to the opponents of Freemasonry whom you referenced in your article.

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/texts/gmd1999/threat.html


101 posted on 01/31/2005 1:35:46 PM PST by PresbyRev
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To: PresbyRev; saradippity

Good post.

It seems that the Masons in the US are very different from the Masons on the main continent of Europe, the so-called Oriental Lodge which broke with the Anglo Lodges a long time ago.

The Catholic church does paint with a broad brush here when it damns the Anglo lodges for the misdeeds of the Oriental Lodge, but as a loyal Catholic, I will obey the Magisteriums ruling.

However, in Anglo culture, Freemasons have always been defenders of liberty, democracy and charity.

We who love Christ should also love Truth and Justice and not be willing to slander a good organization based on similarities in name and rumors even if published in print.

Washington, Madison and many others among our best Presidents have been Freemasons.

If they are the measure of that organization, then may we all be so lucky as to be led by them till our Lord Jesus Christ Himself returns.

Thanks for the ping, saradippity.


102 posted on 01/31/2005 1:38:52 PM PST by JFK_Lib
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To: WesternPacific
No kidding. Okay everybody, one more time: the Freemasons are not a secret society; rather, they are a society of secrets. And the secrets, for that matter, are not that carefully guarded; they deal with the crafting and improvement of one's character.

Freemasonry is not a religion in and of itself, but does require that you believe in a Supreme Being (God, for those of you in Rio Linda).

Freemasonry is incompatible with the current European mentality, which has become rabidly secularist.

Finally, our country (the United States of America, for those of you in Rio Linda) was founded by Masons, and we seem to have turned out, as a nation, quite well, thank you.

Now don't make me come down here again. ;)

103 posted on 01/31/2005 1:47:18 PM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: PresbyRev; All

Another good listing of anti-masonic charges and more than adequate rebuttals.

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/anti-masonry_faq.html


104 posted on 01/31/2005 2:00:53 PM PST by PresbyRev
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To: television is just wrong
I probably had the best of both worlds.

Educated Monday through Friday at a private catholic school. Sunday teaching Sunday school at my Church of England place of worship.

Saturdays were something else.......!!

My late husband was a mason - a life member of his lodge. I saw nothing but good works in my - obviously secondhand - experience with the masons.

105 posted on 01/31/2005 2:01:11 PM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: Churchillspirit

Happy for you, didn't work for us. I always looked up to the men in the lodge, I guess one or two bad apples doesn't mean the whole bunch is bad.


106 posted on 01/31/2005 2:16:32 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Little Bill
????????????????

Don't worry, LB -- we're all confused when we first hear about gnostic cosmo-vision. Once you're enframbed to 32nd-Order Vreemel, though, it'll all seem as natural as breathing. For now, just relax and perform your mission as ordered.

107 posted on 01/31/2005 2:19:33 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Churchillspirit
My late husband was a mason - a life member of his lodge. I saw nothing but good works in my - obviously secondhand - experience with the masons

Hah! That's because you haven't got gnostic cosmo-vision.

(It's a little-known fact that Ephraim Zimbalist, Jr. lobbied long but unsuccessfully to have his show introduced as "The FBI ... In Gnostic Cosmo-Vision." The wiley mason-controlled network execs cleverly substituted the word "Color.")

108 posted on 01/31/2005 2:22:08 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Uncle Vlad
Nice save, Unc. I can see why the Bilderbergers have their eyes on you....
109 posted on 01/31/2005 2:23:37 PM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb
Nice save, Unc. I can see why the Bilderbergers have their eyes on you....

Sssshhhh! Quiet! Remember what they said at the Illuminati Meeting in Gstaad last autumn about not being too conspicuous. ;)

110 posted on 01/31/2005 2:33:30 PM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: Uncle Vlad
Sssshhhh! Quiet! Remember what they said at the Illuminati Meeting in Gstaad last autumn about not being too conspicuous. ;)

Oh! Dang! Right! I'll go right outside and repaint my tiny scooter a muted beige color.

111 posted on 01/31/2005 3:13:10 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Uncle Vlad
If yer really good at following orders Vlad, in a few years you'll get your own franchise!


112 posted on 01/31/2005 3:30:44 PM PST by uglybiker (The most popular guy at a nudist camp can carry 2 cups of coffee and a dozen doughnuts)
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To: Colosis; Servant of the 9
..."seven of the Founding Fathers were Masons, several of these later renounced the craft."

Colosis, you post that as if it were a direct quote of Servant of the 9 who never made such a statement. In fact, that phrase doesn't appear in the whole thread. You wouldn't be tryin' to put words in somebody's mouth, are ya?

113 posted on 01/31/2005 4:53:02 PM PST by uglybiker (The most popular guy at a nudist camp can carry 2 cups of coffee and a dozen doughnuts)
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To: ninenot
Freemasonry is NOT a religion,but since your faith isn't nearly as strong as you suppose it to be,you feel compelled to spread lies about a FRATERNAL society you know nothing at all about,but fear.

And Masons are not anti-Christian at all and unlike the Catholics and some fringe Protestant sects,Masons NEVER talk against Christians.Most Masons ARE Christians.

114 posted on 01/31/2005 5:41:30 PM PST by nopardons
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To: AncientAirs

As they say in Espanol..."CaCa del Toro!"


115 posted on 01/31/2005 5:51:12 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Pass Tort Reform Now! Make the bottom clean for the catfish!)
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To: ExSoldier

Have another jewel, dipwad. Heck..have a whole bag of them! See if you can get enough to buy your way into Heaven.


116 posted on 01/31/2005 5:55:01 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Pass Tort Reform Now! Make the bottom clean for the catfish!)
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To: Salvation

Ha! The corrupt Roman Catholic Church is responsible for the creation of the FreeMasons! Read "Born in Blood" by J. J. Robinson.


117 posted on 01/31/2005 5:56:20 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Pass Tort Reform Now! Make the bottom clean for the catfish!)
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To: Redleg Duke
RAPTURE READY? .....My salvation and yours is already bought and paid for. Somehow I don't think I'll be seeing YOU up there.....
118 posted on 01/31/2005 6:01:00 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: augggh
That's ridiculous! D.C. wasn't laid out in some weird astrological way for Masonic rites at all.It's just that the architect was a Mason.
119 posted on 01/31/2005 6:01:22 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Colosis
Nope and no matter how many times you tinfoiler nutters post your garbage top FR,your bizarre spewings won't stick.
120 posted on 01/31/2005 6:03:33 PM PST by nopardons
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