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'If you don't take a job as a prostitute, we can stop your benefits'
The Telegraph ^ | 30/01/2005 | Clare Chapman

Posted on 01/29/2005 8:32:29 PM PST by ijcr

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To: katnip
I wonder what the males will do when forced into homosexual prostitution?

That is what I have been attempting to get an answer too! I just keep getting the same old, "women are wicked and deserve this", answer.

101 posted on 01/30/2005 12:16:58 AM PST by MontanaBeth (NEVER FORGET)
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To: katnip

Can I object that it's against my religion?


102 posted on 01/30/2005 12:45:38 AM PST by Podkayne (What's obvious to the casual observer is invisible to the main street media)
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To: TankerKC
This is a death sentence. There are STD's that can't be treated by antibiotics. How about AIDS.

So if you are an unemployed EU female you have a death sentence?

103 posted on 01/30/2005 12:47:23 AM PST by Podkayne (What's obvious to the casual observer is invisible to the main street media)
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To: katnip
I wonder what the males will do when forced into homosexual prostitution?

Hmmm.. demand huge tips for very, very little service!!

SFS

104 posted on 01/30/2005 1:45:46 AM PST by Steel and Fire and Stone
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To: ijcr

Hmmm... Forced prostitution?

Germany does have a history of this.

Block 24 at Auschwitz. Not that I'm comparing the current government in Germany to the 1943 NAZI German government, but I just find this article interesting, given the recent anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz.

I guess when you're looking at people as nothing more than "drones," as do all socialist governments, there's no difference between people or jobs. No moral judgements. No right or wrong. I wonder if they could also force a devout Catholic who views abortion as a sin and murder to work in an abortion clinic. I'd have to guess the answer is yes.

Mark


105 posted on 01/30/2005 2:23:14 AM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: katnip
I wonder what the males will do when forced into homosexual prostitution?

While I have nothing against homosexuals personally, I'd have to say that if I were forced by the government into that situation, one name immediately comes to mind... John Wayne Bobbit.

There would be a very unhappy customer, and then I suppose I wouldn't have to worry about room and board for a while!

Mark

106 posted on 01/30/2005 2:27:11 AM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
If a woman has a "the right to her own body" I don't see why she can't whore it out for cash.

Why not? Boxers do it, as do all professional athletes. What about soldiers? Or anyone with dangerous jobs, or jobs that depend on their physical skills.

One of the reasons people put forward against prostitution is the harm it causes the prostitute herself... Both physically and emotionally. Is she more at risk than a soldier in a war zone?

I've got some serious issues about the whole "who owns me" debate. But that's for another thread.

Mark

107 posted on 01/30/2005 2:33:08 AM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
More prostitutes means more disease spread.

That's simply not the case where prostitution has been legallized.

I understand why people oppose prostitution due to moral objections (although I disagree, looking at it on a strict cost/benefit analysis to society), but the statement you made is really no different than when the anti-gunners claim that concealed carry laws will have "blook running in the streets," or shoot-outs over road rage. It's just not happening. And where prostitution is legalized, it's a high dollar business, and spreading disease would jeapordize the profits. And that's something that nobody would tolerate.

Mark

108 posted on 01/30/2005 2:38:48 AM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: Clemenza
I got news for you those ladies/men/shemales aren't intended to be your "companion" to the Yankee game if you catch my drift.

I'm sure that they'd be happy to do so, for their regular hourly rate! lol

Mark

109 posted on 01/30/2005 2:42:34 AM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: Clemenza
Legalize it, regulate it (with regular health inspections) and tax it. Let's not pretend that it will "go away."

What is it with people who constantly say, "Tax it!" Do you really think that there should be an additional tax on sex with a prostitute, or do you just mean to bring prostitution into the mainstream tax structure?

Don't forget that excessive taxes have opened a new, underground market for cigarettes; The idea here is to get prostitution out of being an underground industry.

Mark

110 posted on 01/30/2005 2:45:59 AM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: PERKY2004
This almost reminds me of a science fiction novel I've read, , in which women were literally drafted into prositution.

Disgusting situation, and becoming reality sooner than even the writer had thought...

111 posted on 01/30/2005 2:52:28 AM PST by coydog (My bathroom djinn can beat up your bathroom djinn!)
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To: coydog
My bad, that book was The Rainbow Cadenza, by J. Neil Schulman. It's definitely not a book for everyone, but for science fiction fans with strong stomachs it's a worthwhile read.
112 posted on 01/30/2005 2:54:57 AM PST by coydog (My bathroom djinn can beat up your bathroom djinn!)
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To: ijcr

Bump for later ... ;-)


113 posted on 01/30/2005 2:56:25 AM PST by Tunehead54 (Repeal the 22nd Amendment!)
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To: PERKY2004
I agree. How very disgusting....government-sanctioned depravity.

It's worse than government sanctioned depravity, it's government coerced depravity.

114 posted on 01/30/2005 3:00:49 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Prostitution is dangerous hygienically and it breeds all kinds of crime and create pimps and slavery.

Prostitution is dangerous hygenically, but far less so than going to a bar and picking up a "one night stand," at least if you go to a legal and regulated brothel.

As far as breeding crime, pimps, and sexual slavery, it's not the legalization of prostitution that causes those: They're the result of keeping prostitution illegal. I've tried to help a number of women get out of prostitution. Some have been successful, others haven't. But in most cases, most of their problems have been brought on by bad previous choices, and they're unable to get out of the situations they found themselves in.

Either through drug use, abusive relationships, or a myriad of other issues, they find the only way to support themselves is through prostitution. And since it's illegal, they have NO protection at all. I've got lots of heartbreaking stories of ladies who have been beaten and robbed by clients (or boyfriends/pimps), and they have no legal recourse. I know a lady who was beaten and raped while trying to help someone jump-start a car. Since she did have a prior prostitution conviction, the police really weren't very concerned with her story, even though she had a bloodied lip, two black eyes, and bruises all over her body. It wasn't until her lawyer threatened to sue the hospital that they agreed to take a "rape kit."

In a more recent situation, a lady who was severely beaten by her "ex-boyfriend" (he didn't mind her prostituting herself, as long as she didn't see any black clients. When she did, he beat her), she tried to defend herself, and actually scratched the guy's face. The police came, and since she had a record of both prostitution and drug use, they arrested her for assault. Even though she was badly bruised, the police took his word that she attacked him, claiming that the bruises were from when a john had beat her the previous week. She bonded out the following day, and asked me to take some digital photos for her to use in court. The judge saw the photos, and issued a warrant for the ex's arrest on assault charges, and he reprimanded the officers.

These are just a few examples of what happens to prostitutes with no protection from the law. In many cases, they're forced to find pimps to "protect them," but pimps are often worse than the johns from whom they're supposed to be protecting the ladies.

When people call prostitution a "victimless crime," I disagree. But the #1 victim is the prostitute herself. And she's made the victim by the laws prohibiting prostitution.

Mark

115 posted on 01/30/2005 3:04:23 AM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: Podkayne
Can I object that it's against my religion?

Prostitution is legal, but religion is illegal. Get over it.

Mark

/sarcasm

116 posted on 01/30/2005 3:06:17 AM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: ijcr
All it take for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing. This is what the homosexual marriage issue is all about. An ant can eat an elephant, one bite at a time. What do they expect, pimps to have common sense or to not use the law to enslave women because that would be tacky?

The problem with morality in society is the same problem of having a turd in your punch bowl. To allow homosexuality or prostitution is an issue of how much turd makes the punch undrinkable.

For perverts the problem with trying to allow perversion in society is when it becomes legal, it is no longer a thrill. When homosexuality was "allowed" then marriage must also be, and pedophilia, cross dressing is now an issue.

It stops when society is destroyed, or good men stand up and fight to wrest control back from the perverts.
117 posted on 01/30/2005 3:10:30 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: MarkL

I thank you for your work. I don't believe it's God's plan for anyone to be in that "biz", but I would like them to stay healthy till they get out.


118 posted on 01/30/2005 3:10:42 AM PST by investigateworld (Babies= A sure sign He hasn't given up on mankind!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

BWA HA HA HA...get me ein brewski...uh, er, ein ho-ski! Ja, ja, das ict ein ho-ski! Gut! Gut!


119 posted on 01/30/2005 3:11:49 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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To: americanbychoice2; AMDG&BVMH; An.American.Expatriate; a_Turk; austinTparty; BMCDA; ...
German ping.

Hartz IV fallout.

longjack

120 posted on 01/30/2005 3:15:15 AM PST by longjack
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