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Glaciers Shrinking in a Warming World
AP via Yahoo! ^ | 1/29/2005 | CHARLES J. HANLEY

Posted on 01/29/2005 1:24:37 PM PST by BJClinton

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To: NorCalRepub
Folks, maybe the glaciers are not melting:

http://www.iceagenow.com/Growing_Glaciers.htm

Some glaciers in South America, including the Pio XI and Moreno Glaciers, are growing. The Pio XI Glacier is the largest glacier in the southern hemisphere. The Moreno Glacier is the largest glacier in Patagonia. I find it curious that news reports do not mention these two huge glaciers.

The last Little Ice Age continued from about 1400 to 1850. It was followed by a period of slight warming. There are a growing number of signs that we may be descending into another Little Ice Age-all the mountains of "global warming" propaganda aside." "Geological evidence shows that in the last Ice Age, the southern boundary of the continental ice sheet, known as a terminal moraine, stretched down the center of Long Island, through New York City, across New Jersey and Pennsylvania to Southern Illinois and Missouri, then up the Plains States through Montana and Washington State. All of this real estate was buried under one to two miles of ice. "Geologically and climatologically speaking, we are due for another such glacial advance . . . and in some places (it) may already be taking place. "Since 1980, there has been an advance of more than 55% of the 625 mountain glaciers under observation by the World Glacier Monitoring group in Zurich. (From 1926 to 1960, some 70-95% of these glaciers were in retreat.) "That brings us to the Nisqually glacier, up on the 14,410-foot Mount Rainier, near Tacoma, Wash. "In 1931, fearful that the receding glacier would provide insufficient runoff for their newly completed hydroelectric facility, Tacoma City Light began careful measurements of the glacier. Since the mid-1800s, the glacier had receded about 1 kilometer. The details are described in the September 2000 issue of Washington Geology: " Between 1994 and 1997, the glacier thickened by 17 meters at 2,800-m altitude, indicating probable glacier advance during the first decade of the 21st century." "That's the story from Mount Rainier. Retired geologist Sauers, who has been observing conditions in the Cascade Mountains of western Washington for a lifetime, says "I'm preparing for an Ice Age." Perhaps we all should."

Click here to see the full article: http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/Ice_Age.html

21 posted on 01/29/2005 2:01:23 PM PST by Woodworker
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To: BJClinton

didn't this shrinking glacier shrinking stuff already get disproven? Ice expands and concentrates. A glacier melts and ice forms over a broader area.


22 posted on 01/29/2005 2:01:47 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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We have had numerous threads on here that document what little pollution we do to the atmosphere pales to the natural pollution like from a volcano or such. Basically this entire article is so much Barbara S designed to make us look bad for doing to Kyoto what we should do the the UN. Tell them where to stick it.
23 posted on 01/29/2005 2:05:50 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: BJClinton
Meanwhile, Unusual Arctic Cold Raises Fears for Ozone Hole

Of course, anytime it is warmer than average, it is proof positive of global warming. Anytime it is colder than average it is also proof positive of global warming.

Global warming is currently being observed on several planets in the solar system (including Mars and Pluto). But it couldn't possibly be caused by solar cycles. It is all because of Bush and those damned SUVs.

24 posted on 01/29/2005 2:05:58 PM PST by kennedy ("Why would I listen to losers?")
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To: BJClinton

Geologists have reported up to 120 new glaciers in the Colorado Rockies, many new glaciers in Norway, and a thickening of the ice in Antarctica. You can google this info for verification.


25 posted on 01/29/2005 2:08:49 PM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: Woodworker
There are a growing number of signs that we may be descending into another Little Ice Age ...

Which is why in the 1970s all of the environmental whackos were crying that pollution was causing another ice age. When the data did not back up their predictions, they switched to global warming. I am betting in about 10 years they will switch back to ice age.

26 posted on 01/29/2005 2:08:53 PM PST by kennedy ("Why would I listen to losers?")
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To: BJClinton

20 below today, but we had orchestra rehearsal anyway.


27 posted on 01/29/2005 2:09:04 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: Woodworker

I read the same...some glaciers may be retreating, but others are growing. Going to check out your link.


28 posted on 01/29/2005 2:10:26 PM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: BJClinton; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; AMDG&BVMH; amom; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
29 posted on 01/29/2005 2:13:25 PM PST by farmfriend ( Congratulations. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
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I think that glaciers are beginning to form here in New England. Since early December, the snowdrifts around here have been getting higher and higher. Today at the Barnes and Noble, I climbed over a 30-foot snowbank to get to my car (mainly because I was too lazy to walk around it). No kidding, it was 30-feet high. That sucker's not melting until May. If we get a few more feet of snow, it might not melt at all this summer and then it will just get bigger next year.


30 posted on 01/29/2005 2:13:40 PM PST by SamAdams76 (iPod Shuffle Is A Gateway Drug)
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Message board at Michael Crichton's official website--->>>

http://www.crichton-official.com/~adara/cgi-bin/messageboard-mc/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=000004


31 posted on 01/29/2005 2:14:08 PM PST by dennisw (Pryce-Jones: Arab culture is steeped in conspiracy theories, half truths, and nursery rhyme politics)
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To: BJClinton

Duh, glaciers are always expanding and retreating. Always have, always will. The article did not mention the fact that 90 percent of the Antarctica ice cap is growing.


32 posted on 01/29/2005 2:22:32 PM PST by JoeGar
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Crichton's book is an easy read, and will be quite a revelation to those who put their trust in the media spin surrounding Global warming version. It's quite surprising it was published in the first place, and that the media hasn't gone after Crichton personally....yet.


33 posted on 01/29/2005 2:27:11 PM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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Last spring we took an Alaskan cruise. It was fantastic. We took a tour to a hunting lodge in Juneau called the Taku Lodge. While we were there the guide told us that the glacier across the lake, called Hole in the Wall Glacier, grew more than 20 feet last year. He also said that several glaciologists traveled out to see it because it was the fastest growing glacier in the world. In short, glaciologists are not exactly sure what makes glaciers grow or retreat. For instance, the glacier next to Hole in the Wall glacier is retreating, but at a much smaller pace than Hole in the Wall glacier is expanding.
34 posted on 01/29/2005 2:27:52 PM PST by ChewyGasMan
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To: Woodworker

Well that kinda flies in the face of this "report".


35 posted on 01/29/2005 2:28:11 PM PST by BJClinton (South Park Republican)
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To: BJClinton

So, is it supposed to be "true" global warming, or one that actually triggers the next ice age? In either case, let me fire up the car.


36 posted on 01/29/2005 2:42:32 PM PST by steveegg (The secret goal of lieberals - to ensure that no future generation can possibly equal theirs.)
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I'm gonna fire up the BBQ, smoke a few stoagies, maybe fart a few times...I'm just a walking environmental disaster.


37 posted on 01/29/2005 2:45:21 PM PST by BJClinton (South Park Republican)
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I guess they haven't heard: the "hocky stick" is broken.


38 posted on 01/29/2005 3:59:30 PM PST by King Prout (trolls survive through a form of gastroenterotic oroborosity, a brownian "perpepetual movement")
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To: BJClinton

I guess they haven't heard: the "hockey stick" is broken.


39 posted on 01/29/2005 3:59:44 PM PST by King Prout (trolls survive through a form of gastroenterotic oroborosity, a brownian "perpepetual movement")
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To: Woodworker

interesting. thanks.


40 posted on 01/29/2005 4:02:08 PM PST by King Prout (trolls survive through a form of gastroenterotic oroborosity, a brownian "perpepetual movement")
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