To: JohnnyM
Thank you for post and for your question, which is primarily a theological question and I shall respond accordingly.
My argument is focused on those who see evolution and the Bible being compatible. Either you believe the Bible which in terms of time, order of events, and method of creation are totally incompatible with evolution. If you see the Bible as worthless or just a book written be men with no divine inspiration, than the argument is not directed at you.
I see the Scriptures as inerrant and Jesus Christ as the living, eternal Word of God made flesh (John 1, Rev 19) I also see that God is the Creator of all that there is, the heavens declare His glory and we are to take notice of it. (Psalms 19:1, Romans 1:20)
Since He is both the author of Creation and of Scripture - I expect them to agree and have never been disappointed.
For instance, under relativity and the inflationary theory, six days at the space/time coordinates of the inception of this universe is equal to roughly 14 billion years from our space/time coordinates. Earth time in years and days (our coordinates) begins with Adam and some 6000 years have elapsed since Genesis 4:1. Genesis 1-3 addresses events in both the spiritual realm and the physical realm (compare Genesis 2:9 and Revelation 2:7).
Age of the UniverseGenesis 1 - mechanical, literal and poetic translations
My article on Origins and Scriptures
My article on Evolution through the Back Door
So as you can see, I do not have an issue between inerrant Scripture and physical evidence in the Universe. Others might, particularly those who date the age of the universe at 6000 years plus 6 days from our space/time coordinates - but then again, God could have created it all last Thursday. Metaphysical naturalism (atheism) is also a religion. You might be interested in my challenges to them to prove that they are not religious, nine points
To: JohnnyM
Oops. My link to those 9 points was bad. Here it is:Challenges
To: Alamo-Girl
Another thread opened on the Mr. Meyer's controversy (same as this one). Here we go again!
947 posted on
01/31/2005 2:02:55 PM PST by
WildTurkey
(When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
To: Alamo-Girl
"So as you can see, I do not have an issue between inerrant Scripture and physical evidence in the Universe."
I did not read all the links you pointed to. I did focus on your origins and Scripture section, so please correct me if I have overlooked something. What I saw still did not explain the ordering of events in the Bible and in evolution. In fact, you keep the ordering of the Bible in tact in your explanation, but evolution would have a problem with this, because how could plants exist without the Sun. Also evolution has birds evolving from land animals, yet land animals appeared after birds in the creation account.
I know you probably dont want to get into this discussion, but this is the heart of my discourse on these threads.
JM
949 posted on
01/31/2005 2:12:52 PM PST by
JohnnyM
To: Alamo-Girl
" I believe Adam was banished from the spiritual realm to occupy a mortal body in the physical realm so that he would experience death and decay as punishment for disobediently obtaining the knowledge of good and evil which was established in Day 1."
I'm also worried about this statement. There is no Biblical support for such a claim, plus it also leaves out the whole issue of Eve in the story of the Fall. Jesus tells us in heaven that there is no marriage and Galatians states that in Christ there is neither male nor female. Assuming you meant Eve to be in the picture, why would God create a "woman" for Adam in this spiritual realm to be a helper/wife, when Scripture speaks to the opposite.
JM
972 posted on
01/31/2005 3:35:44 PM PST by
JohnnyM
To: Alamo-Girl
Mark for further reading.
Your posts are fascinating, A-G. Thanks.
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