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To: Alamo-Girl

The reason I don't get excited about information theories is that I don't see the need for them in evolution. Regardless of what causes variation in genomes, the information about what is needed to survive and reproduce is contained in the transaction that comprises selection.

Your discussion of the complexities reminds me of all the psychobabble surrounding gambling addiction. It is true that people differ in their innate susceptability to addiction, but the actual process is the same in humans, rats, pigeons and other mammals. The design of gambling games and machines is a science, and a very simple one.

Biological evolution changes the frequency of alleles by the mechanism of natural selection. Behavioral reinforcement changes the frequency of associative responses. Same mathematics; different physical implementation; different time frame.

Evolution is no longer bound by the study of fossils, or even by the study of living things. It can be modeled in software, and it can be demonstrated that mutation and selection can produce complex structures. It is pretty clear that we do not understand it well enough to model the complexity of life, but we are beginners at this.

It may be that the universe is tuned to produce evolving systems. That would be cool, but selection is not a predictable phenomenon from our perspective, and it is not possible to anticipate how allele changes will be greeted by the world at large.


1,885 posted on 02/08/2005 12:04:46 AM PST by js1138
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To: js1138
Thank you so much for your reply!

The reason I don't get excited about information theories is that I don't see the need for them in evolution. Regardless of what causes variation in genomes, the information about what is needed to survive and reproduce is contained in the transaction that comprises selection.

Yours is a statement of faith (anthropic principle applied to evolution). And certainly there is no offense in any person having a faith as long as it is recognized as such (YECs for instance need to keep that in mind).

To the issue at hand, a statement of faith is not responsive to the "creationist appeal to the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics to refute evolution".

1,891 posted on 02/08/2005 7:23:44 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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