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Gone Wobbly: Peggy Noonan is still looking for her lost mojo.
The American Spectator ^ | January 28, 2005 | Patrick O’Hannigan

Posted on 01/27/2005 9:16:49 PM PST by quidnunc

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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

I've been doing it here,on FR,for quite a while now. At least others are seeing her for what she really is;at last. Welcome to the club,my FRiend. :-)


121 posted on 01/27/2005 10:58:32 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas; All

"The crowd finally chilled out of course. But not out of love of PN. On account of Arlen Specter"

http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110005907

There's the full article. Others can judge for themselves how you are taking Noonan out of context merely to slam her. You're not criticizing in good faith. You are a shill - others who would rally to your side should be made aware of this.


122 posted on 01/27/2005 11:00:19 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: quidnunc
I observed in the previous Noonan thread that the "Not written here" issue was her complaint in disguise.

I have, at times, enjoyed Noonan's work; however,

-she tends to lecture her readers,

-she tends toward floral pretentiousness,

-her use of metaphor, while not hamhanded, can be a bit clumsey, and

-she tends to vamp long after she reaches a rational conclusion.

(And she called the Bush speech grating?)

123 posted on 01/27/2005 11:00:32 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: nopardons
Somewhere in Ukraine, Iran, North Korea or another garden spot.

Bag ladies like Peggy Noonan may howl at the moon because rough men stand guard upon the city's walls. Here's to them.

124 posted on 01/27/2005 11:01:15 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: quidnunc
Noonan needs to get out more, I think she needs to visit middle America and do some real work. Maybe that will bring her back to earth? Maybe Bush could have her clear some brush on his ranch or something? The elitist cocktail parties have been getting to her or something...
125 posted on 01/27/2005 11:02:04 PM PST by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com/)
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To: PhilDragoo
The Ukraine? Please don't lump the Ukraine in with Iran and North Korea.

As to the rest,are you being schizzy ?

126 posted on 01/27/2005 11:07:38 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Fenris6

I know she was using that incident as an illustration to prove something in Peggy's rambling kind of way. I am using the same incident to show something else about Peggy and about how she apparently has very little gravitas in the party. It's called recasting and reinterpretation. Besides, I don't hate her. I pity how she has lost her mojo.


127 posted on 01/27/2005 11:08:05 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

She is bipolar and her meds may not be working right. My oldest son is bipolar and she has been showing the signs of either being off her meds or they are not working, have seen it happen to him several times. In fact the last time it was because he was taking massive doses of ibuprofen for pain and it diminished the effects his medication so bad he almost died.


128 posted on 01/27/2005 11:10:22 PM PST by lolhelp
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
"I am using the same incident to show something else about Peggy and about how she apparently has very little gravitas in the party."

Then why did you omit the follow-up:

The senator's wife leaned toward me and explained, consolingly, "You didn't know, but when the crowd won't stop you have to go 'Ssssshhhhhhhh.' It's the only thing that works."

"It's called recasting and reinterpretation"

No, its called context. You are deliberately misrepresenting her to score cheap shots.

129 posted on 01/27/2005 11:12:53 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: lolhelp

Are you serious? She's bipolar?


130 posted on 01/27/2005 11:16:12 PM PST by CAluvdubya (From the RED part of California)
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To: quidnunc

What makes me roll my eyes is why was her comments on Fox a 180 from what she wrote?


131 posted on 01/27/2005 11:18:30 PM PST by america-rules
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To: Fenris6

No misrepresentation my friend. Arlen is better at working a crowd than Peggy. You indicated that thousands, 100s of thousands of republicans, moderates and indies would sit out the 06 elections if PN is given a sound thrashing on FR. If Arlen Specter is better at working a crowd than PN in a hotel ballroom, how would she ever be able to cause HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of voters to sit out an election?


132 posted on 01/27/2005 11:20:32 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

"You indicated that thousands, 100s of thousands of republicans, moderates and indies would sit out the 06 elections if PN is given a sound thrashing on FR"

There's that reading comprehension issue again. How are we to take your analysis seriously when you can't even get the last half-hour right? This is what I said:

post #15
Apparently. If so, I'll be going over the side with her. And I'm taking 100,000 GOTV volunteers with me

post #63
Ostracism of the likes of Noonan will just be the beginning. You cannot maintain a majority by pissing off people (like Noonan fans) who admire the majority of her work and remember her fondly as a Daughter of the Reagan Revolution. Today its Noonan, tomorrow its Indepedents, then Moderates.

We need more congress-criters in 06 so Bush can get his nominees to SCOTUS. This kind of BS is not the way to do it. Learn to maintain a Majority Party by disagreeing with, not attacking, your own. I've seen this kind of behavior from Republicans before - knock it off before it becomes a pattern


133 posted on 01/27/2005 11:39:23 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Williams
In my mind she epitomizes snobbery, right down to the effected voice, insincere smile, tilted head stance, and occasional hair flip.

Thank you. Her voice grates on my nerves. It's so phony.

134 posted on 01/27/2005 11:45:14 PM PST by Shethink13
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To: nopardons
Ukraine, Iran, North Korea: three topics of numerous threads on Free Republic.

Item two: Noonan is free to rant because U.S. troops preserve freedom.

Schizzy would be Noonan.

135 posted on 01/27/2005 11:46:43 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo

Okay,and thanks for clearing up my confusion re the other post. We're back to being in complete agreement. Phew...I feel much better. :-)


136 posted on 01/27/2005 11:48:53 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

"We're back to being in complete agreement. Phew...I feel much better."

Have another swig of kool-aide. The DUmmies swear by it...


137 posted on 01/27/2005 11:57:30 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: quidnunc
A number of conservatives are put off by the sweeping nature of Bush's declared foreign policy goals, which are more akin to FDR's "Four Freedoms" and JFK's inaugural speech than traditional Republican "walk softly and carry a big stick" policies of well-armed prudence with an avoidance of large scale military action. In addition, strong isolationist sentiment persists, especially among Midwesterners and paleocons. I think that Noonan has those sorts of reservations about Bush's foreign policy but has not yet thought her way through the issues, so she focused on stylistic criticisms and made herself seem shallow.
138 posted on 01/28/2005 12:02:42 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: Fenris6
No dear,it is you,the Peggy sycophant,who is unable to see the forest for the trees,and who is swigging down that tainted KOOL-AID,by the gallon.Try removing the blinders and take a real look at Peggy's lunatic prose,instead of drooling after her retouched visage,you've placed so prominently on your personal page.Pretend she's a man,read her latest drivel and then tell me it's a great piece of writing.
139 posted on 01/28/2005 12:06:16 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Try removing the blinders and take a real look at Peggy's lunatic prose,instead of drooling after her retouched visage,you've placed so prominently on your personal page.Pretend she's a man,read her latest drivel and then tell me it's a great piece of writing.

Strawman. I've already said I disagree with her last article.

Maybe you and DontMessWithTexas can take your Tweedle-dee & dummer act onstage?

140 posted on 01/28/2005 12:21:09 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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