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HAWKING WRONG AGAIN, RESEARCHER TELLS MARS CONFERENCE
(re: wormhole time machine model.
The Press Box ^
| Wed Aug 25 2004
| Belinda Drizdale
Posted on 01/27/2005 1:24:21 PM PST by yankeedame
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The stuff I omitted were simple things like:
B/c various speakers went over the time limit the speech was 20 minutes late
and
A man flew in on his private plane and he was worried he couldn't stay till the end of the lecture.
IOW, nothing relevant to the article
To: yankeedame
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:28:24 PM PST
by
Aetius
To: yankeedame
Maybe he should stick to his budding song-and-dance career?
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:29:16 PM PST
by
Darkwolf377
(It can't be said enough: Ted Kennedy left a woman to die while saving himself)
To: yankeedame
Interesting discussion.
But it couldn't be sustained for long after a few beers.
To: yankeedame
VERY interesting post! Thank you!
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:31:31 PM PST
by
Heavyrunner
(Socialize this.)
To: yankeedame
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:31:55 PM PST
by
Andy from Beaverton
(I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
To: yankeedame
![Homer](http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Pier/3060/3d-homer.jpg)
I wish I'd read that book by that wheel chair guy.
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:32:02 PM PST
by
holymoly
("A lot" is TWO words.)
To: holymoly
"He deconstructed Hawking's chronology protection conjecture, relating how Hawking fails to explain why quantum gravity fluctuations or electromagnetic radiation would build up through any arbitrary opening to the past without doppler effects, further emphasing that connections to the past are not direct connections via linear pathways."
plfff!!! Stupid wheelchair guy!
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:41:04 PM PST
by
Stars N Stripes
(That's about it. A Tourette's Syndrome adolescent who just discovered The Chomsky Reader. That's all)
To: yankeedame
Laughter broke out though when Marshall introduced the Geroch/Wald factor, where the two professor at the University of Chicago had told Thorne that his wormhole idea wouldn't work because when the ship was within 10 light years of Earth that electromagnetic radiation traveling through the wormhole could make it collapse.Marshall pointed out that this would be impossible because the ship is supposed to fly out and back to Earth within a total elapsed time of 10 years, flying at a sub-light speed.
Either the article is written poorly or I just don't get it. Thorne was told that his idea wouldn't work because if the ship was within 10 light years of Earth the wormholes would collapse. So I'm imagining the Earth in the center of a 10 light year diameter sphere; within the sphere no wormholes exist. Marshall's comment about a ten year round trip at sub-light speed simply seems to re-inforce the Geroch/Wald objection to Thorne. Why did that evoke laughter?
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01/27/2005 1:44:43 PM PST
by
whd23
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To: Semper Paratus
nteresting discussion.
But it couldn't be sustained for long after a few beers.Been there, done that. That's enough said
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:54:20 PM PST
by
lafroste
(gravity is not a force, dangit)
To: Art Bell
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posted on
01/27/2005 1:59:10 PM PST
by
lonevoice
(Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
To: yankeedame
Maybe he's just a retard afterall.
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:01:57 PM PST
by
Living Free in NH
(Where am I and why am I in this handbasket?)
To: yankeedame
"These mistakes form a pattern of hidden assumptions which may extend elsewhere in the science and technology community"Well, duh. And these 'hidden assumptions' are often colored by core beliefs. Nothing new in that.
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:03:00 PM PST
by
MEGoody
(Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
To: Physicist; RadioAstronomer; ThinkPlease; PatrickHenry; snarks_when_bored; Doctor Stochastic
To: yankeedame
I don't think Hawking will notice this refutation. Nowadays he's cutting loose at t@tty bars.
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:03:32 PM PST
by
Selkie
(You can argue 'til you're blue in the face, but I'll always be right.)
To: yankeedame
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:04:51 PM PST
by
Fiddlstix
(This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
To: Aetius
My brother and I have been working on a time machine for years. We actually have half of it working. We can go only forward in time at this point, and even that, very slowly. We are looking for funding to complete the othe half of the project. Our big fear is, that going back will be more dificult.
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:05:56 PM PST
by
babygene
(Viable after 87 trimesters)
To: longshadow
No ping list deployment unless you advise otherwise.
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posted on
01/27/2005 2:08:45 PM PST
by
PatrickHenry
(<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
To: PatrickHenry
No ping list deployment unless you advise otherwise. Only if you have a "Unintended Irony Ping List"......
As an aside, on can only hope that this guy is better at science than the author is at writing press releases.... but I wouldn't bet on it.
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