To: DannyTN
You can look to the gospels
The Gospels contain no verifiable evidence of a historical Jesus.
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Historical secular references to Jesus
A lot of interesting history here, but only two references to Jesus. Tacitus writing about Nero punishing Christians for the burning of Rome is not evidence for a historical Jesus.
The first is from the Jewish Talmud compiled between 70 to 200AD:
"On the eve of the Passover Yeshu was hanged. For forty days before the execution took place, a herald went forth and cried, `He is going forth to be stoned because he has practised sorcery and enticed Israel to apostacy. Anyone who can say anything in his favour, let him come forward and plead on his behalf.' But since nothing was brought forward in his favour he was hanged on the eve of the Passover."
Although this does give a name, Yeshu, there is no mention of a crucifixion or resurrection....Is this Jesus?
The second is two paragraphs that reference Jesus from Antiquities, of the Testimonium Flavianum by Josephus. This wasn't written by Josephus during the time of Jesus, it was written by Eusebius, a Christian, in the fourth century. All Christian copies of Josephus come from this compilation. None of the pre Eusebius copies of Josephus contain references to Jesus.
The other two links are a book review with index and a collection of Bible stories. Neither offer any evidence of a historical Jesus.
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765 posted on
01/28/2005 11:19:36 AM PST by
mugs99
(Restore the Constitution)
To: mugs99
They are evidence. And obviously references to Christians, are a pretty good indicator that at least followers of Christ existed.
Try proving that Plato or Sacrates existed by the same standard.
Josephus referenced Jesus in two separate works. Almost all scholars consider Josephus's mention of Jesus in the "Jewish Wars" to be authentic. There is a debate over the reference in "Antiquities" because it calls Jesus the Messiah, something an unconverted Jew would not likely have done. But even then it's thought Josephus mentioned Jesus in the original, but that the reference may have been modified later.
Josephus on Jesus
Josephus
766 posted on
01/28/2005 12:36:40 PM PST by
DannyTN
To: mugs99; MineralMan
You might find this link interesting. I haven't reviewed the whole site. But this particular page lists 50 old testament prophecies fulfilled by Jesus. And it has links to even more. #6 has a funny typo. Apparently this site was put up by someone south of the border.
"http://biblia.com/jesusbible/prophecies.htm"
767 posted on
01/28/2005 12:51:59 PM PST by
DannyTN
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