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To: The Bard

But that still wasn't "good". "Good" is a worldy measurement which means nothing in Heaven. The "good" people will burn in Hell just as the "bad" people will walk the streets of gold. The rich young ruler was "good" in the eyes of the world. If we saw the ruler today, we would call him a "good Godly man".

Peter is a classic example. Peter was a screwup but Jesus looked past that. Peter needed Jesus because he was "bad". The ruler was "good" therefore he didn't need Jesus.

There is no good and bad in Christianity. There is obedience and disobedience.


238 posted on 01/26/2005 11:55:48 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: AppyPappy; The Bard
The ruler wasn't good. He put his riches above God.

Jesus said to him, "If you would be perfect, go and sell all that you have and follow me."

The goal isn't good by earthly standards, the goal is perfection.

There are only two ways to be perfect. Never sin or be forgiven. And God said there are none righteous so the first one don't count.

248 posted on 01/26/2005 12:00:37 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: AppyPappy
But that still wasn't "good". "Good" is a worldy measurement which means nothing in Heaven. The "good" people will burn in Hell just as the "bad" people will walk the streets of gold. The rich young ruler was "good" in the eyes of the world. If we saw the ruler today, we would call him a "good Godly man".

Peter is a classic example. Peter was a screwup but Jesus looked past that. Peter needed Jesus because he was "bad". The ruler was "good" therefore he didn't need Jesus.

There is no good and bad in Christianity. There is obedience and disobedience.

You are correct that in worldly terms, we have our own difination of what "good" is. For some, it is a "Good" morning, for others, it is not. For some, milk is "Good" for them, but if you a are lactose intolerant, milk is not "Good"

When Speaking in Terms of God (Father, Son, Holy Ghost), we have to take God ofr what it truly means:

God is Good as God is HOLY. I agree that peter was a "screw-up", but he was a screw attached to the right Bolt. He know he needed Jesus. He know that others needed Jesus. The ruler was not good, as he did not recognise his need for a saviour. To him, it was as you discribe, obedience or disobedience. The things is, we can not live up to Gods standard, and the "good" ruler failed to see that. He failed to understand that while he had kept the civil laws (the last 6 commandments), the "good" ruler was placing his wealth above God. He was guilty of transgressing the first four commandments.

313 posted on 01/26/2005 12:38:12 PM PST by The Bard (http://www.reflectupon.com/)
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