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Ok. There is his speech, assuming that every individual wants self determination. That is not the mindset over much of the globe, including leftists in the USofA.

Bush has made no secrete that he is a globalist. Here is a quote, "I would like to see a Free Trade Zone from the north of Canada to the tip of Cape Horn". Free Trade means a border less trade zone from Canada to the tip of S. America.

It does not acknowledge cultural, political, or ideological differences. Right now a super highway is in the works in Texas designed to cut right through the nation from the Mexican Border.

Study the politics of Brazil, Venezuela, and other S. American nations. They are not good. Yet we are opening our borders to exchange goods, people and the destructive ideologies and ambitions they carry, and who knows what else, with these anti-american nations. It is not prudent.

Bush spent the last four years attaining the "Fast Track" ability to place before congress, for an up or down voice vote, any trade agreement he makes. Jan. 25th the FTAA treaty comes before congress. Go to google and read up on it. Tell me what you think about it.

Bush has been loath to secure our borders, to him everyone is an American just waiting to get here. He has shown no responsibility to his own countrymen and the impact illegals make on their lives, safety, wealth, and property. He has, and is, ignoring the very context of his Oath of Office, to the legitimate citizens of this nation to put their best interests and safety first.

Bush has been abusive and defensive with any other politician that demands he show some responsibility and duty towards his own nations best interests. A nuclear strike would not cause him to secure our borders. You can deny or ignore the evidence, that's your choice.

I have never thought you were stupid just agendized, too trusting, and hero worshiping, when you should be what your Founding Fathers cautioned you to be. Vigilant, suspicious, and demanding.

Points well taken.

Until the end. 'Hero worshippers' are stupid people. You can't call me one, without implying the other.

'Hero-worshippers' don't think for themselves, and they are gullible. And I am neither of those things.

I am vigilant, but I am not suspicious, especially of a brother in Christ whom I have been closely observing (whether you accept it or not, with a very critical eye) for the past four years, and then some.

I do agree with you about the borders, and don't understand this administration's laxity. I just don't draw the same conclusions as you do.

Thanks for the reasoned response to my question..........although I still don't see any defense of the 'pious' charge.

Your posts on this thread make extremely good sense to me.

The problems of illegal immigration and of outsourcing all our manufacturing are serious ones which have not yet been addressed by our President.

Before Bush looks to ending tyranny worldwide (I wonder what his friends in the Saudi royal family have to say about that), he should open up his eyes to the very real domestic problems facing us here.

In addition, he needs to adopt some fiscal reality. If our sons and daughters are to encircle the globe to "spread democracy" (is it "Democracy" or is it "Empire"?) who will pay the trillions and trillions of dollars this will cost?

Sometimes I think our President is pennywise and poundfoolish.

"Bush has been loath to secure our borders, to him everyone is an American just waiting to get here. He has shown no responsibility to his own countrymen and the impact illegals make on their lives, safety, wealth, and property. He has, and is, ignoring the very context of his Oath of Office, to the legitimate citizens of this nation to put their best interests and safety first."

Well articulated, irrefutably proven, and deeply troubling to those of us who were hoping George Herbert's vision for a 'New World Order' wasn't going to be facilitated by one George Walker.

"You should be what your Founding Fathers cautioned you to be. Vigilant, suspicious, and demanding."

Hear hear!