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To: ohioWfan
>>>>>>Yes.....the trouble with this column, IMO, is the "too much God" line. It is historically inaccurate, and just plain wrong.<<<<<

Noonan isn't complaining about references to God. She's complaining about Bush's belief that we can turn earth into Heaven. This is something conservatives used to worry about; in the Buckleyite slogan, "Don't immanentize the eschaton." It is foolhardy to think we can eliminate tyranny from the planet, and foolhardy to make such a task the goal of the United States. The Founders had a far more modest, and realistic, vision: to establish freedom here.

686 posted on 01/22/2005 9:51:19 AM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Thorin
As a conservative, did you believe that Reagan's belief in eliminating the tyranny of communism was also 'foolhardy?'

Did you also want him to speak in more modest, realistic tones?

And if so, when the Iron Curtain fell and millions were freed and fledgling democracies established, did you recognize that you were in error?

687 posted on 01/22/2005 10:00:27 AM PST by ohioWfan (Have you PRAYED for your President today?)
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To: Thorin
She's complaining about Bush's belief that we can turn earth into Heaven.

And many here have pointed out her error is assuming that premise. Evidently an error you share with her.

688 posted on 01/22/2005 10:03:49 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: Thorin

"It is foolhardy to think we can eliminate tyranny from the planet, and foolhardy to make such a task the goal of the United States. The Founders had a far more modest, and realistic, vision: to establish freedom here."

Great comment, by the way. Mind if I add it to the quotes on my profile page?

I don't agree with everything you say, but at least I'll defend your right to say whatever you want without checking for someone else's OK--unlike some of those who believe that your comments ought to be subject to approval by the RNC.


782 posted on 01/22/2005 5:40:45 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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