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To: Alamo-Girl

"It disturbs me greatly that political correctness has taken many subjects off the table and has caused our society to make absurd and costly false equalities."

PC is destroying our country.



"The most obvious example that comes to my mind was during the Clinton years when all of the Armed Forces – except for the Marines – were required to reduce their physical standards so that women could meet them. The men were no longer challenged. Notably, all of the services – except the Marines – had difficulty meeting their recruitment goals."

Women should be in separate status like they were in WWII.
The main problem with women in combat is it is too distracting to the men. We don't like to see women get hurt. Acclimatizing men to watching women get blown up is a bad idea. I am a combat vet. If my ship had gone out of port with a bunch of women on it, my wife would have burned down the Naval base. ;-)

"In a related example, whereas it used to take 2 men to carry a stretcher in the battlefield – now regulations call for 4 – because women do not have the same upper body strength."

Woman should not be in combat. It would be ok for them to be in radar planes, intell and other support. But we should not have them anywhere close to ground combat. The Navy shouldn't have them on board either. Putting a bunch of teenagers on a boat together is like having a naked coed sleepover. ;-)

"That is a false equality."

Agreed

"tortoise and I have an ongoing dispute on algorithmic information theory"

I am as ignorant of AIT as creationists are of biology.

"These disputes are great fun for those of us who are actually interested in them. And we share a great mutual respect as we stand there toe-to-toe and assert our contrary views."

Yeah, I don't have any problem with honest debate. What bothers me are the so called "christians" who keep posting the same fraudulent arguments as if they had any merit.

"But it would be a mistake to presume that I must be wrong because I am a woman and they are not … "

What I have learned in over 35 years of marriage is that woman are always right. ;-) (At least if you don't want the sofa for a bed for a few days.)

I really like that ad where the wife comes out in a new dress and asks if she looks fat in it. The guy says, "You betcha".


774 posted on 02/20/2005 10:49:17 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: shubi; betty boop; PatrickHenry
Thank you for your reply!

Concerning women in the military, one of the innovative ideas of the Clinton administration was to make room on those already cramped submarines for women. Jeepers!

What bothers me are the so called "christians" who keep posting the same fraudulent arguments as if they had any merit.

(The below is paraphrased from an earlier conversation with PatrickHenry on another thread:)

Because God is both Creator of "all that there is" and Author of Scripture, I expect them to agree and have never been disappointed.

We Christians receive Truth from the Spirit - both the living Word of God Jesus Christ (John 1, Rev 19) and the written Scriptures. Truth always trumps facts. Hence the 31 sentences of Genesis 1 trump the hundreds of thousands of volumes of scientific text: mechanical, literal and poetic translation of Genesis 1

Or to put it another way, when a believer perceives a conflict between Genesis and science – since God is author of both – the believer must conclude that either (a) he doesn’t understand either the Scriptures or the science or (b) that he must accept the Scripture on faith.

At bottom, there is no scientific argument against the declaration that God created “all that there is” last Thursday.

Personally, I see perfect harmony between Genesis and science because:

a) Genesis 1-3 refer to things happening both in heaven and on earth. (Gen 1:1, location of the tree of life Gen 2 v Rev 2)

b) The perspective of time (space/time) passing changes from the inception of “all that there is” in Genesis 1-3 to earth in Genesis 4 when Adam is banished to mortality.

c) Relativity and inflationary theory tell us that time is relative. Six days from the space/time coordinates of the inception of this universe is equal to roughly 14 billion years from our space/time coordinates on earth.

Lurkers can figure it out themselves:

Schroeder: Age of the Universe

In case you want to know, this exponential rate of expansion has a specific number averaged at 10 to the 12th power. That is in fact the temperature of quark confinement, when matter freezes out of the energy: 10.9 times 10 to the 12th power Kelvin degrees divided by (or the ratio to) the temperature of the universe today, 2.73 degrees. That's the initial ratio which changes exponentially as the universe expands.

This is easy for me to see, but of course a lot of other Christians do not agree – some because they haven’t yet investigated relativity/inflationary theory and some because their theology requires that Adam be the first mortal man, i.e. the Young Earth Creationists.

The theological difference hinges on the interpretation of Scriptures, particularly Romans 5:12-14 and I Corinthians 15:42-48. A large segment of Christians (including Roman Catholics) view Adam as the first ensouled man, a smaller segment view Adam as the first mortal man.

My musings are squarely in the middle, i.e. 6000 years since Adam at earth’s space/time coordinates plus 6 days from the inception space/time coordinates and Adam as the first mortal man with the breath of God (neshama – Genesis 2). All other creatures in Genesis 1 have a soul, a nephesh, but not a neshama.

It is a waste of time to argue a theological point such as YEC using science. It is doctrine and must be argued with Scripture, lexicons and ancient manuscripts. If one is unable to make such a theological argument, I suggest it is better just to ignore the YEC post altogether.

780 posted on 02/20/2005 8:07:37 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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