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Now US ponders attack on Iran
Guardian ^

Posted on 01/18/2005 7:02:23 PM PST by Happy2BMe

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Not until after the elections in Baghdad.
1 posted on 01/18/2005 7:02:26 PM PST by Happy2BMe
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MEK (MKO) is a marxist islamist group. they are very dangerous to the US national security!


2 posted on 01/18/2005 7:04:14 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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It's good to keep the mullah-queers guessing. I was very pleased with Bush stating he would not take military action off the table to deal with Iran's nukes. I'm glad Colin Powell is gone, so we don't have to hear him pussyfoot around it.


3 posted on 01/18/2005 7:05:49 PM PST by pissant
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ROTFLMAO!!!! Bush has got the left in a total snit.

They are soooo 20th century!

4 posted on 01/18/2005 7:05:54 PM PST by zarf
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To: Happy2BMe

Any article, especially one from the Guardian, that presents the argument as one being posed between "neo-conservatives" and "ex-CIA agents" is not what most Freepers would call "fair and balanced."


5 posted on 01/18/2005 7:08:35 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: dennisw; SJackson; MeekOneGOP; TrueBeliever9; Geist Krieger; JohnHuang2; Salem; Sanch; ...
MAP TO WWIII - TURN AT THE INERSECTION OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS STREET AND ISLAMIC TERRORIST AVENUE - ping.

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"It is not a straightforward problem but at some point the costs of doing nothing may just become too high."

"In Iran you have the intersection of nuclear weapons and proven ties to terrorism. That is what we are looking at now."

6 posted on 01/18/2005 7:08:48 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything If the imams can't control it - they will kill it.)
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You're quick. Was just getting ready to ping U.


7 posted on 01/18/2005 7:09:55 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything If the imams can't control it - they will kill it.)
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To: Dog Gone

Memo on news from Europe: Trust none of it - notta - nothing.


8 posted on 01/18/2005 7:10:59 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything If the imams can't control it - they will kill it.)
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But we sure as heck aren't going to wait until after we're attacked. Pre-emption is still the modus operandi.


9 posted on 01/18/2005 7:11:07 PM PST by P.O.E. (FReeping - even better than flossing.)
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When you have to shoot...shoot
dont ponder


10 posted on 01/18/2005 7:13:53 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Dog Gone
It's simply a re-hash of Hersh's BS.

Although I liked the interpretation that saw Hersh as an unwitting stooge of hawks desiring to pressure the mullahs indirectly.

11 posted on 01/18/2005 7:15:55 PM PST by pierrem15
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"It is not a straightforward problem but at some point the costs of doing nothing may just become too high..."

That is it in a nutshell. On the one hand, the sort of nuclear weapons capable of production by a nascent program such as Iran's tend to be large, crude, and difficult of concealment. On the other hand, they aren't impossible to conceal and deliver; in fact, smuggling may be Iran's best bet to deliver them given the nascency of its missile programs as well. If the target is the U.S. then it's the only way.

The more immediate purpose of such weapons would be to inoculate the theocracy against overt invasion, but the necessity to use terrorist means to make the threat credible means that one threshold at least will be crossed the moment they successfully test a device. That is precisely the sort of threshold beyond which the Iranian government is convinced it will be invulnerable but in fact will necessitate action against it.

But the notion of using the Mujahideen Khalq is one that has been bruited before. These are not really our friends at all, despite being the enemies of our enemy, and using them will present the same sort of disadvantage a similar use of Saddam Hussein in the 80's presented. But if it does turn into a covert war they'll play. It may already have started.

12 posted on 01/18/2005 7:19:57 PM PST by Billthedrill
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More third hand speculation, what if anything can go right with these upcoming elections 80% of Iraq is islamic, they will favor Islamic government hence another terror state!
While destroying Irans infrastructure and reactors sounds like a great idea, there is no end game, there is no endgame for Iraq either. I would like to see a huge portion of Iraqs population disabled as in made eunuchs or something to guarntee their future cooperation not just a slide into more Islamic hornet nests. Im sorry but it would be wise not to leave any potential suicide bomber standing in the Arab world, they are the enemy we can kill them now
or let them kill us later.


13 posted on 01/18/2005 7:21:35 PM PST by claptrap (Recent republican votes leave me wondering if they are all just republicrats!)
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Unlike waht almost every artile (including this one) argues, the problem with Iran is not the nuke technology.

It's the mullahs.

Even if we managed the blast every nuke site, how long would it be before the programs were restarted, with the deliberate aim of revenge against the US?

We would be better off locating all of their homes and hitting the top 200 mullahs all at one in one huge raid at 04:00 local time.

In the end, regime change is the only cure for Iran's nuke problem.

14 posted on 01/18/2005 7:22:52 PM PST by pierrem15
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Fascinating. I thought I was listening to Dr. Kissinger there for a moment.


15 posted on 01/18/2005 7:23:49 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything If the imams can't control it - they will kill it.)
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But I thought the neo-conservatives were run out of town by the searing intellectual criticism of Barbara (no WMD in my pants) Boxer ?


16 posted on 01/18/2005 7:23:51 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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President Bush's second inauguration on Thursday will provide the signal for an intense and urgent debate in Washington over whether or when to extend the "global war on terror" to Iran, according to officials and foreign policy analysts in Washington.

No, no... not whether. Just when. ;^)

Actually, a strike against Iran a couple days before the elections in Iraq might be just the thing to draw off foreign terrorists and send them scurrying back to Iran to fight for the home turf.

17 posted on 01/18/2005 7:25:07 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Let them eat cake.)
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"In the end, regime change is the only cure for Iran's nuke problem."
18 posted on 01/18/2005 7:25:19 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything If the imams can't control it - they will kill it.)
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19 posted on 01/18/2005 7:26:17 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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Agreed!

Regime Change is a solution to Iran and Iranians' problems.

But without BLOODSHED for sure!


20 posted on 01/18/2005 7:27:12 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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