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Democrats Turn to Leader of Religious Left
New York Times ^ | January 17, 2005 | DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

Posted on 01/17/2005 12:20:04 AM PST by nickcarraway

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To: ZellsBells

Hmmmmm? I WILL NEVER SPEAK OF THIS AGAIN!!

ROTFLOL!! I love it!!


63 posted on 01/17/2005 9:14:27 AM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: nickcarraway

No where is the issue of protecting marraige mentioned in this article. They are not really serious.


64 posted on 01/17/2005 9:16:15 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: piasa
Oh, but ya'all were very clear: you have no faith or values.

Exactly what I was thinking when I read this :)

You say you lost your faith

But that's not where it's at

You had no faith to lose

And you know it. . .

Bob Dylan, "Positively 34th Street"

65 posted on 01/17/2005 11:04:28 AM PST by Fedora
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To: nickcarraway

"The Democrats are turning to the guy they can find that is least scary to them"

That would have been a more appropriate title.


66 posted on 01/17/2005 11:06:22 AM PST by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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To: piasa; Liz; kattracks
Mr. Wallis, the founder and editor of the Christian magazine Sojourners

Sojourners is not a Christian magazine except by the loosest definition of Christianity. It's a front for antiwar infiltrators of the theological community of the Daniel Berrigan/Robert Drinan type. I posted some more on them here starting at Post 25:

Kerry's Choice for Religious Outreach Director 'Confounding,' Group Says

See esp. Post 31:

From S. Stephen Powell, Covert Cadre: Inside the Institute for Policy Studies, 281-3:

Sojourners was founded by Jim Wallis in 1976, the offspring of the Post American, which was published by a few radical theology students who banded together commal-style in Chicago in the late 1960s. Encouraged by Richard Barnet [of the Institute for Policy Studies], Gordon Cosby [of World Peacemakers], and others, Wallis decided to move his ragtag Christian hippie community to Washington. Barnet's influence was soon felt at Sojourners, for after Wallis moved the Sojourners commune to Washington and came in contact with IPS, the appearance of the magazine improved and its rhetoric was toned down. But when Wallis addresses his colleagues in the elite theological circles, he makes no effort to conceal his politics. He told Mission Tracks in 1979, in the article "Liberation and Conformity", that he hoped "more Christians will come to view the world through Marxist eyes. . ."

[SNIP]

The U.N. Special Session on Disarmament of 1978 was to be an extravaganza for peace activists throughout the Western world. . .The entire endeavor had been conceived and approved by the World Peace Council in 1975, based on the Soviets' perception. . .Never mind that nothing specific on disarament resulted from the special session. What did emerge were some organizational vehicles for "the movement"--Mobilization for Survival, the Riverside Church Disarmament Program, World Peacemakers--all of which "IPS fellows were instrumental in organizing", as an IPS annual report pointed out. . .

The theme of the March 1978 Sojourners issue was in keeping with the campaign being promoted by World Peacemakers. . .

Also see Post 25 on some related figures among the religious left.

67 posted on 01/17/2005 11:18:12 AM PST by Fedora
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thanks for the link; ping to my #67 on related topics.


68 posted on 01/17/2005 11:19:25 AM PST by Fedora
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To: Grampa Dave
"The Office of Management and Budget at the Census Bureau defined the poverty threshold in 2003 as $18,810 for a family of four; $14,680 for a family of three; $12,015 for a family of two; and $9,393 for an individual."

Americans are so phenomenally wealthy that we insult entire continents such as Asia, Europe, and Africa by declaring that a family of 4 Americans earning $18,810 per year are all at what we consider to be starving and humiliating levels of "poverty."

Here in Alabama, where we have the same $18,810 per year threshold for "poverty" that applies to San Francisco and Manhattan, that $18,810 per year (which is tax free thanks to President Bush) will purchase a 2 bedroom house, electricity, a new car, gas, a telephone, a new TV, medical care, food, new clothing, and weekly nights dining out for the kids.

In 5 Points South (Birmingham), a 2 bedroom condo at a retirement high-rise rents for $300 per month. That includes monthly electricity and a 24 hour guard at the front desk. New pickup leases with no money down start at $124 per month.

Are we jaded to our vast wealth so much that more than $18,000 per year is considered total starving *POVERTY* in America, or are we simply being fed a meal full of abject propaganda from a left-wing news media anxious to inflate "poverty" statistics for their own vile political purposes?

69 posted on 01/17/2005 11:22:18 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: piasa

Thanks for the information!


70 posted on 01/17/2005 12:17:45 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thanks for the link


71 posted on 01/17/2005 10:49:38 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: aardvark1

They don't want the cure, they want power. To get power, they must have reliable followers. One way to get people to follow is to make them dependent on you. So to ensure a never-ending supply of reliable voters and useful idiot demonstrators, the leftists have to make sure that poverty continues. To increase their hold on power, the leftist elite must even make poverty worse, or at least try to persuade everyone they can that it is on the rise, even if it isn't.


72 posted on 01/17/2005 11:03:03 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: nickcarraway

"Jim Wallis, one of the few prominent left-leaning leaders among evangelical Protestants."

Saying that he is an evangelical doesn't necessarily make him one.


73 posted on 01/17/2005 11:08:21 PM PST by Binghamton_native
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To: nickcarraway

So they are trying to make it that religion is just an ecconomic philosophy against poverty. This is the same BS that the left used during the cold war to say christianity is communist.

The left is self delusional and they can not become extinct fast enough.


74 posted on 01/17/2005 11:17:43 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: lafroste
So the Bible includes references to TAX CUTS!!!!

Will democrats support this "religious" principle of low taxes now that the democrat (gay) party has discovered God?
75 posted on 01/17/2005 11:20:54 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Fedora

Bump!


76 posted on 01/18/2005 4:02:33 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: nickcarraway

UPDATE...

JIM WALLIS: Faith Succeeding Where Politics Has Failed [Open]
Christian (ear scratching) Post Online ^ | 5-26-08 | maria Mackay
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2022445/posts?page=1


77 posted on 05/30/2008 8:56:56 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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