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Hitler Planned to Kidnap Pius XII
El Universal (in Spanish) ^ | 01/15/05 | EFE

Posted on 01/15/2005 2:12:47 PM PST by Embraer2004

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1 posted on 01/15/2005 2:12:47 PM PST by Embraer2004
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To: Embraer2004

A "got ot read this further" bump!


2 posted on 01/15/2005 2:16:01 PM PST by TBP
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3 posted on 01/15/2005 2:16:12 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Revolting cat!

Hey look, it's Prince Harry!


4 posted on 01/15/2005 2:17:15 PM PST by ElkGroveDan
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To: ElkGroveDan

Reverse translation: Oy look, oits pr'nce 'arry.


5 posted on 01/15/2005 2:19:48 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: Embraer2004

BUMP!


6 posted on 01/15/2005 2:21:28 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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I wonder where this 1972 document is and why it's not seen the light of day? Interesting, if true, and certainly the opposite of everything else we've heard concerning Pius XII and the Jews. We shall see?


7 posted on 01/15/2005 2:22:50 PM PST by Migraine
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To: Migraine

You're right, all along I've heard that Pius XII did nothing to help the Jews, but it seems that there are documents that prove that the Pope actually helped save many Jews from Hitler's gas chambers. We shall see as the Beatification process goes forward.


8 posted on 01/15/2005 2:38:30 PM PST by Embraer2004
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The Catholic League can tell you more about the truth on Pius XII.

By the way, novelists like Martin Amis do us all a disservice with fictional Vatican officials who help Nazis get to the United States.

9 posted on 01/15/2005 2:43:33 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Migraine
certainly the opposite of everything else we've heard concerning Pius XII and the Jews

In the early years post-war his work was recognised, it is only more recently that people have tried to besmirch his reputation.

I look forward to the day that we can say: "Blessed Pius pray for us".
10 posted on 01/15/2005 2:45:25 PM PST by tjwmason ("For he himself has said it, And it's greatly to his credit, That he is an Englishman!")
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To: ElkGroveDan

Hey look, it's Prince Harry!

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No... it's Princess Hitlery in drag !!! ;-))


11 posted on 01/15/2005 2:47:54 PM PST by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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Anyone who wants to see absolutely definitive refutations of the slanders against Pius XII should look up two articles in FIRST THINGS (www.firstthings.com). One is a long one by Rychlak. The other entitled The Pius Wars is by
Joseph Bottum.


12 posted on 01/15/2005 2:51:54 PM PST by gregde
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"I wonder where this 1972 document is ......"

Equally important was it typed on a word processor that was not invented until 1996 ?

Calling Dan Rather

13 posted on 01/15/2005 2:58:49 PM PST by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: Embraer2004

This is clearly BS. Every smart person knows that Pious hated Jews and did everything he could to collaborate with the Nazis. Adolph LOVED Catholics. He had the Pope up to the Eagle's Nest for weekend barbacues.


14 posted on 01/15/2005 3:32:51 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: Migraine
I wonder where this 1972 document is and why it's not seen the light of day? Interesting, if true, and certainly the opposite of everything else we've heard concerning Pius XII and the Jews. We shall see?

Correction: everything else we've heard concerning Pius XII and the Jews from assorted anti-Catholic bigots both on and off FR.
15 posted on 01/15/2005 3:48:23 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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Weren't there numerous instances of convents hiding Jews during the war?


16 posted on 01/15/2005 3:52:21 PM PST by Ciexyz (I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie)
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ping


17 posted on 01/15/2005 3:53:02 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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Funny, you claim to have an intelligent contribution to the conversation, yet you cannot spell Pius' name correctly. I hope this post was sarcastic.


18 posted on 01/15/2005 4:12:20 PM PST by CouncilofTrent (Quo Primum...)
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To: Revolting cat!

I'll be that he has a hard time getting a good table at a restaurant.


19 posted on 01/15/2005 4:22:01 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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Kidnap the Pope and do away with Christianity, just like certain people today who call Bush Hitler.


20 posted on 01/15/2005 4:30:06 PM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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