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Islam and NPR (Truth about what Jihad means)
jihadwatch ^ | January 13, 2005 | Hugh Fitzgerald

Posted on 01/13/2005 8:24:45 PM PST by dennisw

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1 posted on 01/13/2005 8:24:45 PM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw
"The Crusades lasted a mere 200 years."

It ain't over yet...

2 posted on 01/13/2005 8:29:51 PM PST by endthematrix (Declare 2005 as the year the battle for freedom from tax slavery!)
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To: endthematrix

It will NEVER be over!!


3 posted on 01/13/2005 8:35:21 PM PST by VNam68
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To: dennisw

As frightening a piece as I've read.


4 posted on 01/13/2005 8:36:25 PM PST by Nachum
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To: dennisw
Why on earth do we pay for NPR out of our tax dollars...we already have the politicians to lie to us...it's redundant to employ NPR to do the same thing.
5 posted on 01/13/2005 8:42:47 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: dennisw

bttt


6 posted on 01/13/2005 8:45:51 PM PST by Luigi Vasellini
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To: highlander_UW

Huh?


7 posted on 01/13/2005 8:46:24 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: dennisw
It has been quite an effort to prevent Infidels from getting the wrong (that is to say, the right) impression of Islam, at least until such time as Muslims in the West currently singing the praises of “pluralism” no longer have need for Infidel good will and tolerance.

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The use of the word in Qur’an and Hadith, and constantly through 1350 years of Muslim history, has certainly endowed the word “Jihad” with a meaning of struggle, usually through military means, to expand the domain of Islam.

Almost all Muslims understand that “warfare” (qital, qatala) is the essential meaning of the word. But Infidels, who prefer to think otherwise, have eagerly snapped up little guides such as that put out a few years ago by Karen Armstrong, a complete apologist and no scholar of Islam


A long article, but well worth the read.

I can also tell you that I'm getting pretty tired of the word Infidel, and those who use it.
Don't let anyone tell you it is not a pejorative.

8 posted on 01/13/2005 8:47:30 PM PST by konaice
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To: USF; weenie; ariamne; Happy2BMe; Former Dodger; Nesher; broadsword; Fred Nerks; JudyinCanada; ...

Jihad watch ping


9 posted on 01/13/2005 8:48:35 PM PST by jan in Colorado
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To: MEG33
Huh?

the piece is related to the following suggestion from NPR

All Things Considered. January 7, 2005 ; "Jihad" is one of the few Arabic words used in English. It means "spiritual struggle," but many Muslims have pointed out that "jihad" is almost always used in English in the context of terrorism, even though the actual meaning is broader. Commentator Anisa Mehdi would like to propose a word that could be used instead of "jihad." -- From the NPR Website

10 posted on 01/13/2005 8:50:22 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: konaice
I kind of like it now, wear it as a badge of honor:

Say it LOUD! I'm and INFIDEL and I'M PROUD!

>

11 posted on 01/13/2005 8:59:52 PM PST by Former Dodger ("To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. " Confucius)
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To: jan in Colorado

Good one, Jan, thanks for the PING!


12 posted on 01/13/2005 9:02:11 PM PST by Former Dodger ("To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. " Confucius)
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To: dennisw

I'll tell 'em how to "prevent unnecessary harm to Islam's image"...
STOP MURDERING PEOPLE IN THE NAME OF ALLAH!!!
Then again, that advice comes fourteen centuries too late, and they sure wouldn't take it anyway!


13 posted on 01/13/2005 9:04:51 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: dennisw

When you encounter ANYTHING written or spoken by a Muslim, you have to keep in mind that the "holy" Koran makes it a virtue to lie to the infidel in order to further the cause of holy war against him.


14 posted on 01/13/2005 9:07:58 PM PST by broadsword (It was far beyond anything seen here before!)
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"And so, to prevent unnecessary harm to Islam’s image, she asks if it might not be possible to avoid the word “Jihad” altogether."

Mehdi, if you don't want unnecessary harm to Islam's image. Publicly renounce Al Q, Hamas, Islamic Jihad,quit beheading people, quit flying airplanes into buildings, quit taking out families in restaurants and malls by suicide bombing, etc. You are responsible for Islams image due to your abysmal failure to condemn terrorism and the islamic extremists who practice it.
15 posted on 01/13/2005 9:13:02 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: dennisw

Thanks for the post. I does give a good summary of things many of us have been aware of. Sadly, so many are sold into converting to Islam in this country and abroad without the slightest idea of what they are getting into.
I look forward to the two upcoming articles to follow this one.


16 posted on 01/13/2005 9:18:20 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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May I request you to ping me when the second and third installment come out? Thanks.


17 posted on 01/13/2005 9:19:47 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: Wolfhound777
Publicly renounce Al Q, Hamas, Islamic Jihad,quit beheading people, quit flying airplanes into buildings, quit taking out families in restaurants and malls by suicide bombing, etc.

Renounce their holy sacraments? No way. Dream on, my friend.
18 posted on 01/13/2005 9:21:14 PM PST by broadsword (It was far beyond anything seen here before!)
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To: jan in Colorado; dennisw
Thanks for the ping... excellent article!

Infidels have discovered websites where four or even five Quran’ic translations are laid out for comparative reading, a horizontal pentapla that may be accessed at www.usc.edu. At the same site, or at many others, Infidels can now read for themselves hundreds of the Hadith (the sayings and acts of Muhammad). In addition to reading Qur’an and Hadith, Infidels can read the sira, or life of Muhammad.

Lets keep the good work and continue exposing the evil cult of death for what it really is.

19 posted on 01/13/2005 9:34:25 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: dennisw
"Kitman" , a partial truth, omission of the whole truth or meaning with the intent to decieve...

.... in support of this doubtful proposition, the hadith in which Muhammad, returning home from one of his many battles, is reported to have said (as known from a chain of transmitters, or isnad), that he had returned from “the Lesser Jihad to the Greater Jihad” and does not add what he also knows to be true, that this is a “weak” hadith, regarded by the most-respected muhaddithin as of doubtful authenticity,...

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From another article concerning the recently elected Mahmoud Abbas, new leader of the Palestinian Authority..

Mr. Abbas shows tactical flexibility.
Unlike Arafat, who could never let go of the terrorist tool that had brought him wealth, power, and glory, Mr. Abbas sees the situation more cogently.
If stopping the violence against Israel best serves his goal of eliminating the sovereign Jewish state, that is his program.

He no more accepts what he so charmingly the other day called the "Zionist enemy" than Arafat did (or Hamas, or Palestinian Islamic Jihad), but he is open to a multiplicity of means to destroy it.
As he announced after his electoral victory this week, "the lesser jihad is over and the greater jihad is ahead."
The form of jihad must change from violent to nonviolent, but the jihad continues.

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It is more than that, as the explanation from this article suggests / exposes..

It is the use of a recognized "weak" and meaningless hadith, or biographical reference..
It is practically a muslim "code word" meant to say, "we will now decieve the infidels for a time.."

"The arabs who call themselves Palestinians" will now understand that [ phase b ] is now in effect..
General complaints of victimhood.. oppression by the Israelis, the west, and Jews in general..
Complaints of poverty, lack of opportunity, lack of MONEY... Demands for MONEY to provide infrastructure, (water, sewer, roads) and MONEY for jobs programs,(jobs in Israel = access to Israel ) small business loans, (metal-working shops mostly..) MONEY for education programs.. ( education at Israeli universities and colleges = access to Israel )
Complaints of ACCESS TO ISRAEL will escalate at border crossings, etc..
Finally, RELIGIOUS OUTRAGE.. Some act by Sharon or other Israeli official will be characterized as an outrageous offence..
Protest and Riots will begin..
The NEW INTIFADA is started..

Minimum time frame, 2 years..

20 posted on 01/13/2005 9:45:33 PM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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