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To: newgeezer

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No political point at all. I just get so frustrated as private business owners are forced to change what goes on in their businesses due to political correctnes BS. You can't even smoke in bars anymore in many places. In California you can't smoke OUTSIDE. These local ordinances are ridiculous, alothough I agree the constitution does not allow for smoking. It also does not allow for abortion, but that didn't stop anyone now did it?


17 posted on 01/13/2005 12:16:58 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Men are from earth, women are from earth...deal with it!)
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To: trubluolyguy
I think I agree with what you said in that post but, I'm left wondering why you tried to draw a parallel between flag-burning and smoking in regard to free speech.

If your point was that flag-burning is not or should not be protected under the free speech clause, I disagree. That's another thread, though.

20 posted on 01/13/2005 12:22:09 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: trubluolyguy
No political point at all. I just get so frustrated as private business owners are forced to change what goes on in their businesses due to political correctnes BS<<

I think you've got something when it comes to property owners. Most restaurants now have non-smoking signs posted at the entrances, so how come if the restaurant ALLOWS smoking, they cant just place a sign outside saying so?

Smokers would not be FORCED to inhale nasty old cigarette fumes and smokers would not be FORCED outside and denied service simply because they are partaking in a LEGAL activity.

BTW, I believe that second-hand smoke stuff causing others cancer when casually smelled in a restaurant environment has not been scientifically proven any more than global warming has.
29 posted on 01/13/2005 12:34:01 PM PST by hushpad (Come on baby. . .Don't fear the FReeper. . .)
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To: trubluolyguy
" . . . alothough I agree the constitution does not allow for smoking . . "

Well, it's not an enumerated right, but then neither does it allow for a non-smoking ban. So where it is not specific, it is the people's right of choice, there being no compelling state interest. In the case of second-hand smoke, there is no compelling state interest, as the fraudulent study that nic-nazis use to hammer town councils, et al, was trash-canned by the SCOTUS years ago as being phony.

No smoking bans are clearly lacking in legitimacy and are an an attack on the very basis of our Republic -- the right to pursue happiness and manage our own private property, unhindered by fascist-leaning, despotic politicians and those who buy them off and put them in office.

33 posted on 01/13/2005 12:38:08 PM PST by Eastbound ("The United States of America is not a friggin' democracy." -- The Founders)
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