[dmz]

LOL.

Well, gosh, why didn't someone just tell me it's the truth simply because it's an article of faith for them, and I wouldn't have spent all this time looking at the issue.

C'mon. You want a "scientific" approach (which I assume you take ID to be) and have it accepted simply because someone states "it's the truth". If you want to play in the science game, it's gotta be a little more than just stated categorically.

[DBeers]

-get a life.

[ohioWfan]

Not going to get into a spitting contest here. I've been on one crevo thread, and that was one too many. Nasty people hang out on those things......

I am not a scientist, nor will I ever be, but I do know that the idea that this universe had no intelligent beginning takes a whole lot more faith and denial of empirical evidence, than does the idea that this intricate perfection required a designer.

You may not call that science, but it's evident to everyone who honestly looks at what's out there.......and inside us.