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1 posted on 01/11/2005 9:01:55 PM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax
What, they say? No evidence?

All depends on the meaning of "evidence" is

IMO ... The media and this report are still covering for CBS and Dan Rather

2 posted on 01/11/2005 9:11:31 PM PST by Mo1 (Does the distinguished Sen from VT wish to act as our treaty rep. for negotiations with Al Queda?)
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To: Pikamax

Two points,

1) CBS lays the blame for running with the fakes, because they wanted to beat other news outlets to press with it. However, they had been working on the story for 5 years. If no one else had picked up the trail in that amount of time, what could possibly lead them to believe someone else was on it?

Also, seeing as they had to bring together the Kerry campaign and Burkett to get the story, and bribe Nurkett, a serious violation of journalistic ethics, were they presuming that all of the rest of the MSM would sink so low too?

2) There was a similar story floating about Kerry's war record. Unlike Burkett, the Swift Boat vets had first hand knowledge of which they spoke, weren't demanding face time with the Republican party, and didn't want money.

CBS ignored this story for months, specifically until Kerry started bashing the Swiftees, and they joined in with the bashing. Certainly the Swiftees story was at least as of much interest to a neutral observer as the TANG story...no?


3 posted on 01/11/2005 9:11:37 PM PST by swilhelm73 (Like the archers of Agincourt, ... the Swiftboat Veterans took down their own haughty Frenchman.)
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To: Pikamax
Under the heading "Information that Might Suggest a Political Agenda," the report listed a five-year pursuit of the Guard story by Rather and Mapes; the use of strongly anti-Bush sources; and Mapes's call to Joe Lockhart, which put the John Kerry campaign adviser in touch with Bill Burkett, the source of the suspect Guard documents about Bush's military service. (On the opposite side, the panel cited previous reporting by Rather and Mapes in both Democratic and Republican administrations.)
Mapes's zeal for the story is clear from her e-mail to a freelancer with a lead on the Guard documents: "I desperately want to talk to you. . . . Do NOT underestimate how much I want this story."

Naaaaah. No definitive political bias there.

4 posted on 01/11/2005 9:11:41 PM PST by martin_fierro (</pith>)
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As others have pointed out, the question of political motivation can also be answered by a study of the stories SeeBS chose not to pursue. SeeBS was conducting yet another proctological exam of the thoroughly investigated story of GWB's TANG service. As far as I can tell, not a single MSM Outet conducted anything more than a cursory examination of John Kerry's service record despite clear indications that all as not as Kerry said it was. Kerry was changing his story in public for crying out loud! Yet nobody rose up to the Gary Hart style challenge? Even when the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth laid it all out for them as had others before, SeeBS decided that they would ignore Kerry and pursue GWB. Did the committee even ask SeeBS why?
5 posted on 01/11/2005 9:15:17 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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This, Boccardi acknowledged, "won't satisfy anybody who thinks anything short of outright condemnation, a finding of political bias, was an act of cowardice . . . that we didn't have the nerve, courage, wisdom, insight to say it."

And you say what? You did have the nerve, courage, wisdom and insight to say it? Your conclusion would seem to disprove that idle thought.

Bias isn't so difficult to prove. Your entire report detailed it in abundance! "Myopic zeal"? Come on! No one is fooled here.

6 posted on 01/11/2005 9:17:11 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Pikamax

They forgot to mention that critics also question the indefensible refusal to conclude that the documents were forgeries.


7 posted on 01/11/2005 9:17:39 PM PST by Buckhead (Family Motto: "Often wrong, but never in doubt.")
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To: Pikamax
They are still in denial.

There is no way CBS or the rest of the MSM will ever regain their credibility until they realize and admit they have a big problem with political bias's. Then perhaps they will start a new type of affirmative action program with the goal of having appropriate percentages of conservative reporters, editors, journalists, etc.

Not going to happen soon.

8 posted on 01/11/2005 9:19:46 PM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: Pikamax; bert; Peacerose; Landru
The last line in the article:

But, she[Linda Mason] added, "Dan does think he's constantly attacked. If we backed off every story that was criticized, we wouldn't be doing any stories."
I don't suppose they EVER considered ANY criticism as valid? Nah. Arrogance is bliss(to coin a new phrase) ;^)

Their mindset is baffling.

FGS

9 posted on 01/11/2005 9:34:25 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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The biggest lie of all is this - that journalism is a "profession" and that that "profession" is taught in "schools of journalism."
10 posted on 01/11/2005 9:38:39 PM PST by Malesherbes
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"Rather is sitting here maintaining, despite everything, that the memos don't actually matter, that the story is right."

The Dims version of reality: If it's not true, it should be.

15 posted on 01/12/2005 2:09:20 AM PST by Angry Enough
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To: Pikamax

Ok, there's been 100+ articles on this today.

I keep serching for the part where CBS loses their broadcast license. Until I read abour that, nothing has changed. Nada. Zip.

The bloviated report, the unlikely pundits who attacked it, and the cumulative verbage explaining the unintended feined ignorance of the players all have the same coverup stench as Whitewater.


16 posted on 01/12/2005 2:31:48 AM PST by JoeSixPack1
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I firmly believe if they found something about Kerry and his past, they'd be rushing to get that on the air, too."

If she "firmly believes" that, she is living in a fantasy world. We don't have to imagine what CBS would have done with information about Kerry's past. There was plenty, thanks to the Swift-vets, and CBS never seriously investigated.

19 posted on 01/12/2005 7:08:17 AM PST by knuthom
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