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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

I don't believe there is a convincing argument to be made that the Southern states would have ratified the Constitution had it freed slaves (assuming it could have purchased them which is a hell of an assumption given the bankrupt Confederation). Hell for that matter that might have defeated it in New York since areas of that state had as high a concentration of slaves as any area of the nation.
It barely passed there as it was.

I do not need convincing of Lincoln's greatness all I have to do is read some of the garbage posted here by the Lincolnhaters such as the latest "Lincoln was Gay" absurdity. But I would not place him above Washington in that regard.


94 posted on 01/11/2005 10:12:48 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
While it's true that slavery had a tangible economic incentive for many people-including some industrialists in the North who benefited from insuring the practice-I don't think that it would have stood up to the attraction of a federal union, with all its attendant benefits.

The South, especially Georgia, South and Carolina, would have never seceded at a time when the settlers living there were under the possible threat of constant warfare against native tribes.

Most of this talk was bluff, on their part.

95 posted on 01/11/2005 10:19:26 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Oi! Oi! Is this a proper parliament?")
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