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To: narby
The theory of evolution is irrelevant to the subject of God.

And that's the problem. God is NOT irrelevant. Make up a fable of how a log cabin could come into existence without intelligent design. Such a tale would make the builder of the cabin "irrelevant". Unfortunately, since the builder is quite irrelevant, it makes the theory ignoring him irrelevant. Such is the fate of the theory of evolution. IT is irrelevant, not God.

a great many people on FR seem to believe that God doesn't have the power to have created evolution

On the contrary, we believe that God has the power to do as He pleases, including creating the entire universe in 7 days if that's the way it happened. It is the evolutionists who seek to rob God of power, believing that God doesn't have the power to have created the universe without evolution.

They apparently think God put all that evidence out there just to fool us

LOL. Uhm, no. We think God left plenty of evidence, and the evidence points to divine creation, NOT to a chance occurrence wherein He is "irrelevant" as you admit. As these intelluctuals like C.S. Lewis and his recently converted debate partner are concluding, based upon the evidence it is MORE logical to presume intelligent design than to presume evolution. If you want to take a huge leap of "faith" and believe in an evolutionary world in which God is "irrelevant" that is your choice; however, the odds are simply not in your favor.

Like the death of Mark Twain, the stories about how Evolution is being rejected by scientists have been greatly exagerated.

You mean Mark Twain is still alive!? ;-)

40 posted on 01/10/2005 4:31:05 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: GLDNGUN
In an early morning, if you view a lake that is perfectly smooth, like a mirror, did God make the lake flat? Or did gravity?

I prefer to think that God created gravity, and that's what made the lake flat.

Same with evolution.

42 posted on 01/10/2005 4:37:22 PM PST by narby
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To: GLDNGUN
Narby:"The theory of evolution is irrelevant to the subject of God."
(and goes in to say God could have created evolution)

GLDNGUN: "And that's the problem. God is NOT irrelevant."


I think the problem occurs when people can't, or refuse to, distinguish between the statement he made and the one you attributed to him.

It's so very common, I'm not picking on you. It would just be refreshing to have a thread where people argued only the points that are actually made.

Insisting that one can't believe in God and evolution both is dangerous, IMHO. And accusing evolutionists of being motivated by a desire to sin with impunity is simply unjust.
59 posted on 01/10/2005 5:13:48 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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To: GLDNGUN

Ah, my friend, the log cabin was created when logs fell in a certain configuration just like the faces on Mt. Rushmoore were formed by the effects of wind and rain on the rock.

Or my watch. I was just walking along one day and all these minerals collated and formed this machine. It was simply amazing. Keeps good time, too.

Isn't nature amazing? Making an eyeball out of mud, faces on a mountain and a log cabin?


131 posted on 01/11/2005 3:11:57 AM PST by Proud_texan
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