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5 new F/A-22 Raptors land at base
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Posted on 01/08/2005 5:48:14 PM PST by iso

TYNDALL AIR FORCE BASE -- (AP) -- Five more F/A-22 Raptors landed Friday at this Florida Panhandle base where Gen. John P. Jumper, Air Force chief of staff, is among the first pilots being trained to fly the new stealth fighter.

The five Raptors arrived from the Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co. plant in Marietta, Ga., a day after all F/A-22s were cleared to resume flying for the first time since a Dec. 20 crash at Nellis Air Force Base, Nev.

The additional planes increased the number of Raptors at Tyndall to 18, more than half of the 33 now in the Air Force inventory. A 34th plane had been scheduled to arrive but its flight was postponed due to mechanical problems, said Capt. Susan A. Romano, a Tyndall spokeswoman.

Jumper is scheduled to make his final F/A-22 qualification flight here Wednesday.

The planes were grounded as a precaution after the Nellis crash. Safety and accident investigation boards have not disclosed a cause, but Air Force officials said they were confident the jets could be flown safely based on preliminary findings. The pilot suffered scrapes but was otherwise unharmed.

Eight F/A-22s are stationed at Edwards Air Force Base, Calif., and seven at Nellis for testing and evaluation. All pilot training is done at Tyndall. Langley Air Force Base, Va., is expected to receive the first operational Raptors this year.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Georgia; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: clubbingbabyseals; fa22raptors; langleyafb; tyndallafb; usaf
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To: pbrown

Me too.


81 posted on 01/08/2005 7:30:29 PM PST by null and void (I refuse to live my life as if someone, somewhere will be offended if I laugh...)
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To: jch10
They must train over the Gulf of Mexico.

All the bases along the coast train out over the Gulf, unless they're dropping stuff on Eglin. Locals are understanding about the bombs on the range, but prefer the window rattling sonic booms are done over the Gulf. :)

82 posted on 01/08/2005 7:35:25 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: pbrown; null and void

And the current plan is to replace it with the JSF.


83 posted on 01/08/2005 7:36:25 PM PST by ProudVet77 (If it's Saturday, I'm sailing!)
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To: ProudVet77

We do JSF too!


84 posted on 01/08/2005 7:39:08 PM PST by Raffus (Thanks to all Veterans for their service to our Country.)
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To: Gunslingr3

I am accustomed to seeing the other fighters overhead, usually in twos or threes.....just curious as to why I haven't seen the F/A-22's.


85 posted on 01/08/2005 7:44:38 PM PST by jch10
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To: connectthedots
Why is a general being trained to fly this plane, besides ego gratification?

I knew someone would take that slant on it. Some people don't like ordering others to do what they could not do. Jumper is by all reports a very good pilot.

86 posted on 01/08/2005 7:44:40 PM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: okie01

My goes to

ME262
F14
P51

In that order


87 posted on 01/08/2005 7:45:44 PM PST by redangus
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To: Paul_Denton

Hope we don't get another a-hole who gives away the technology.


88 posted on 01/08/2005 7:45:54 PM PST by johnb838 (To Hell They Will Go. Killmore.)
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To: zarf
The F-16 and the B-1 are still the sexiest planes in the air

Stealth is sexy.

89 posted on 01/08/2005 7:47:18 PM PST by johnb838 (To Hell They Will Go. Killmore.)
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To: blogbat

P-38 was great but it was like driving a milk truck compared to the Spitfire.


90 posted on 01/08/2005 7:49:00 PM PST by johnb838 (To Hell They Will Go. Killmore.)
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To: GBA
Actually, the models of our most current aircraft (F-117, F-22, etc.) being made in China still bothers me.

The models don't contain any more information about the capabilities of the aircraft, nor how it achieves them, than photographs. I'm sure they are made from photographs, not the engineering drawings.

91 posted on 01/08/2005 7:49:43 PM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: pbrown
That baby will bring the pilot home with one wing and shot all to hell and back. I love the protection it gives the pilots.

Roger that...


92 posted on 01/08/2005 7:50:22 PM PST by null and void (I refuse to live my life as if someone, somewhere will be offended if I laugh...)
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To: redangus
I always thought the Spitfire was the prettiest plane ever. For some odd reason, I also liked the looks of the P-40.

My Niece used to date a pilot from Eglin. He once told me the First Fighter Wing (Langley) was known by other pilots as the "Worst Fighter Wing".

93 posted on 01/08/2005 7:55:24 PM PST by yarddog
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To: zarf
The F-16 and the B-1 are still the sexiest planes in the air.

Perhaps--in the air today. And the F-22 is certanly technologically advanced.

But if you give points for being "ahead of its time", I say no aircraft will ever be "sexier" than the F-104, designed 50 years ago.

This Lockheed fighter was designed by the famous Skunkworks under Kelly Johnson at Lockheed. Its famous wing (or lack of; it was so thin it was like a knife) and technological breakthroughs made this aircraft a quantum leap ahead of others in technological advances. And it looked damned good to, nicknamed officially the "Starfighter" but known to pilots as the "missile with a man in it".

94 posted on 01/08/2005 7:55:37 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
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To: ProudVet77

"And the current plan is to replace it with the JSF."

F35. It will be VTO capable and make anything else on the planet look like a piece of shit.


95 posted on 01/08/2005 7:55:45 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: Gunslingr3
How exactly is the F-22 endangered by knowing what base it is at? Since they're not invisible to the naked eye, how could such information remain secret anyway? Your paranoia is unwarranted. You don't need to feel less safe because someone knows where the F-22 is based. It doesn't matter.

In fact there is a highway that runs right through Tyndall AFB. Highway 98, which passes pretty close to the flight line and runways. The pattern extends over much of Panama City and Panama City Beach.

I was down there installing some software modifications as part of the capability upgrade to the Schoolhouse required to accommodate the F-22 about a year ago.

96 posted on 01/08/2005 7:57:11 PM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: Cobra64
Comparing the F-16 to the A10 is similar to a contrast between an Aston Martin to a Mini Cooper

Except the A-10 is more like a flying HumVee.

97 posted on 01/08/2005 7:58:46 PM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: Marine_Uncle
F35. It will be VTO capable and make anything else on the planet look like a piece of shit.

Only the Marine and Brit (and maybe some other exports) versions. The Navy will have a carrier capable version, but it will use cats and arresting wires. The Air Force version will be strictly CTOL.

98 posted on 01/08/2005 8:03:55 PM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: El Gato
Except the A-10 is more like a flying HumVee.

It offers the pilot alot more protection than a Hummer offers it's driver. Maybe the M-1 is a better comparison... :)

99 posted on 01/08/2005 8:04:00 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: johnb838
That's what I hear, but can't say from experience (which is a big bummer). Still, as a kid, they were the coolest-looking ;) and I heard they were tough as nails.
100 posted on 01/08/2005 8:04:02 PM PST by blogbat (Blogbat: ein Fahrgeschäft durch die Weltnachrichten)
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