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To: Quilla
The USS San Francisco ran aground some 350 miles south of Guam -- the nearest land mass -- while it was conducting submerged operations. It has since resurfaced and is heading back to Guam, according to the USPF's news release

They were in high speed transit submerged. Thats the worst type of grounding incident you can have on a submarine, and it can be potentially fatal to the entire crew. Right now, those guys are in a fight to get the ship into port, because there is most likely damage to the ballast tanks, and they are fighting to keep it afloat

The nuclear submarine has a "limited medical staff on board," he said. Most of the wounded suffered head injuries, Clampitt said

I servd on the sister boat of the San Fransisco. There is one senior corpsman on a 688 class boat, and whoever is qualified as an EMT or whatever in civilian life. This guy is probably workig himself half to death right now

Head injuries infer a high speed collision, resulting in the crew really being tossed around. There are plenty of things on a submarine that your head can hit, and they dont move at all. I still have scars

Pray for these guys folks...they have a long way to get to port..at least another day, or even more if they can't do any speed at all.

58 posted on 01/08/2005 5:02:51 AM PST by judicial meanz (Co-Founder of http://projectexodus.com--> A Christian Human Rights Ministry to address Anti-Semitism)
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To: judicial meanz
I servd on the sister boat of the San Fransisco. There is one senior corpsman on a 688 class boat, and whoever is qualified as an EMT or whatever in civilian life. This guy is probably workig himself half to death right now Head injuries infer a high speed collision, resulting in the crew really being tossed around. There are plenty of things on a submarine that your head can hit, and they dont move at all. I still have scars Pray for these guys folks...they have a long way to get to port..at least another day, or even more if they can't do any speed at all.

Wouldn't they be able to send medical help to assist the Doc via BSP or do Medevacs??
61 posted on 01/08/2005 5:07:17 AM PST by submarinerswife
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To: judicial meanz

Thank you for your service. My son and I recently watched a movie that showed the crews' activities preparing for a deep dive. I commented at the time, "There is no way I would get on a sub!" Of course, he looked at me like I was a silly girl, but I sticking by my reaction. Kudos to the brave men that serve on submarines.


62 posted on 01/08/2005 5:08:49 AM PST by Quilla
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To: judicial meanz

Doc trains the cooks to help out. Scary, huh?


89 posted on 01/08/2005 5:41:58 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: judicial meanz; Jet Jaguar
There's an off chance that "submarine runs aground" for public consumption is really "other nations sub strikes US sub" in reality. It's happened before:

A Brief History Of US/Russian submarine collisions: source (scroll down)

1961 USS Swordfish (SSN-579) is on a spy mission in Soviet waters when a Soviet sub surfaces underneath it.

196? A US sub, possibly USS Skipjack, on a spy mission in Soviet waters, collides with a destroyer. Finally made public in a New York Times article in 1975.

July 1965. USS Medregal rams a Greek freighter.

March 1966. USS Barbel rams a freighter near North Vietnam.

December 1967. USS George C. Marshall (SSBN-654) is grazed by a Russian sub.

October 9, 1968. This appears to be the historical precedent for the Kursk sinking. A Russian sub operating normally collided with an unknown sub in the Barents sea, leaving a sizable hole in the Russian sub. Russian intelligence notes the arrival of a damaged sub in a Norwegian port a few days later.

November 1969. USS Gato's sail hits the hull of a soviet sub.

March 14, 1970. USS Sturgeon bashes her sonar dome against a Russian sub's sail.

June 1970. USS Tautog is rammed by Black Lila. It is erroneously assumed at the time that Black Lila sank.

March 1971. An unnamed US sub operating 12 miles off of the Soviet coast collides with a Russian sub. Reported in the New York Times in 1975.

Mid-1971. USS Dace hits a Russian sub in the Mediterranean.

Late 1971 or early 1972. USS Puffer is trailing a Soviet sub when the Soviet sub unexpectedly dives, bumping into Puffer.

March 1974. USS Pintado rams a Soviet missile boat while on a spy mission in Soviet waters near Petropavlovsk. Reported in the San Diego Evening Tribune in 1975.

November 3rd, 1974. USS James Madison hits an unknown Russian Victor class attack sub in the North Sea. Reported by columnist Jack Anderson.

1981. HMS Sceptre is trailing a Russian sub and rear-ends it.

October 1986. USS Augusta, while testing a new computer sonar system to make detecting enemy subs easier, rams a Soviet sub. The Augusta claims they rammed a Delta class. Others report it was a Yankee missile boat that subsequently sank.

December 24, 1986. HMS Splendid and a Soviet sub were trying to dodge out of each other's way when they collided. HMS Splendid's towed sonar array became tangled in the other sub and was lost.

February 11, 1992. USS Baton Rouge hits a Soviet sub near Murmansk. For the first time, and in response to Yeltsin's demands, the US Navy publicly acknowledges the collision.

March 20, 1993. USS Grayling with a Russian sub in the Barent's Sea.

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Considering that Guam has become a hotspot for Chinese sub activity lately, it could happen.

114 posted on 01/08/2005 5:52:49 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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