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Nuclear Submarine Runs Aground South of Guam
The Associated Press ^ | Jan 8, 2005 | The Associated Press

Posted on 01/08/2005 3:19:47 AM PST by Jet Jaguar

HONOLULU (AP) - A nuclear submarine ran aground about 350 miles south of Guam, injuring several sailors, one of them critically, the Navy said.

There were no reports of damage to the USS San Francisco's reactor plant, which was operating normally, the Navy said.

Jon Yoshishige, a spokesman for the U.S. Pacific Fleet based at Pearl Harbor, said the Friday afternoon incident is under investigation and the 360-foot submarine was headed back to its home port in Guam.

Details on the sailors' injuries were not immediately available. The sub has a crew of 137, officials said.

Military and Coast Guard aircraft from Guam were en route to monitor the submarine and assist if needed, the Navy said.

Guam is a U.S. territory about 3,700 miles southwest of Hawaii.

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On the Net:

U.S. Pacific Fleet: http://www.cpf.navy.mil

AP-ES-01-08-05 0343EST


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: guam; shipwreck; silentservice; ssn711; submarine; usn; usssanfrancisco
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To: Doohickey

Open up wordpad and type the names you would like to ping. Separate them by a semi-colon (;)or comma (,) Then cut and paste them into the to field to ping them.


201 posted on 01/08/2005 6:42:22 AM PST by Jet Jaguar ("Perhaps he will burn in Heaven.")
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To: judicial meanz; Conservative Infidel
You're right of course. Much of this argument is silly.

Let's break it down for the land lubbers?

1) The Captain doesn't AUTOMATICALLY lose command of his boat. There will be an investigation to determine whether or not he was responsible for the accident. But....

2) Non-Navy types will be SHOCKED at how many things a skipper is responsible for. It's almost anything.

3) It could be OK if there is no way he could have avoided the accident. And by "no way" I mean... nobody he placed on watch made an incompetent error.... no equipment HE was responsible for failed for lack of maintenance... no charts of the area showed the danger... and on, and on, and on. A captain is always responsible for his boat and crew. If there was ANY reasonable (and some unreasonable) way to avoid the incident... he's in trouble. If there was no way to avoid the incident... we don't cashier good skippers for the he11 of it!

It's just that the Navy's standards are not the same as the rest of the world's. It's a different life out there.

202 posted on 01/08/2005 6:43:03 AM PST by IMRight ("Eye" See BS)
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To: Boot Hill

Underwater volcanic activity can raise sea beds, and make charts inaccurate.

I'm looking, but cant seem to find anything recent in the yap trench area.


203 posted on 01/08/2005 6:43:33 AM PST by judicial meanz
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To: judicial meanz

Ahh, thanks :)


204 posted on 01/08/2005 6:43:36 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: Doohickey

My Husband was a TMC (before LDO) and he and his COB went round and round about hotracking in "his" torpedo room.


205 posted on 01/08/2005 6:43:39 AM PST by submarinerswife
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To: Jet Jaguar

Is it possible that there was a change in the sea floor, due to the earthquake that caused the tsunami?

Mark


206 posted on 01/08/2005 6:44:06 AM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: Boot Hill
My primary interest in this thread is nautical and technical.

Which is why you, I and others that share similar natures are such perfect targets for such an ingenious trolling technique.

I can even picture using it during a design review meeting: just say something to the effect that you read/heard about it on Oprah and wait for the response. If you don't crack first, it may take a few moments before the others catch on.

207 posted on 01/08/2005 6:44:57 AM PST by lemura
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To: MarkL

That far out, I would doubt it.


208 posted on 01/08/2005 6:45:25 AM PST by Jet Jaguar ("Perhaps he will burn in Heaven.")
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To: ThanhPhero
The sub still has sonar, changed seafloor or no.

Do attack subs (or any subs) constantly use their sonar? It seems to me that it would give away their location.

Mark

209 posted on 01/08/2005 6:45:33 AM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: submarinerswife

Yep, a TM's worst nightmare. Nubs are stinky!


210 posted on 01/08/2005 6:46:10 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: Jet Jaguar

My son Zack is abord. Please for the crew.


211 posted on 01/08/2005 6:46:12 AM PST by rsobin
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To: submarinerswife

Your husband is a great guy!

Knuckledraggers are a dying breed.



212 posted on 01/08/2005 6:46:16 AM PST by judicial meanz
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To: judicial meanz; Doohickey

I think the AUTEC setup is pretty unique, but we have a similar area off San Clemente Island. We used to shoot excercise torpedos on the range over there when Pogy was in San Diego.


213 posted on 01/08/2005 6:46:16 AM PST by PogySailor
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To: judicial meanz

the last I knew the PAC equivalent of AUTEC was at San Clemente Island. I don't have any personal experence there (Lant fleet sailor here), but my wife served on torpedo retrevial craft there in her early career as a non-rate.


214 posted on 01/08/2005 6:47:02 AM PST by Bottom_Gun (Crush depth dummy)
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To: Jet Jaguar
My son Zack is aboard. Please for the crew.
215 posted on 01/08/2005 6:47:14 AM PST by rsobin
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To: rsobin; Doohickey; DBeers; Conservative Infidel; trussell

You have my prayers, and definitely the prayers of everyone I can find RS.

And if you need anything at all, let us know. Bubbleheads stick together, and you are family, even if I dont know you.


216 posted on 01/08/2005 6:48:03 AM PST by judicial meanz
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To: Jet Jaguar
A submarine went aground off of Eureka Ca in the early 1900s and it cost a crusier in the rescue attempt... USS Milwaukee
217 posted on 01/08/2005 6:48:28 AM PST by tubebender (If I had know I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself...)
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To: mariabush
Were there women aboard?

Just the driver.

218 posted on 01/08/2005 6:48:29 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: rsobin; trussell

I pray for his safety as well as the other crew members.


219 posted on 01/08/2005 6:48:37 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: All
Okay, who wants on the Steely-eyed killers of the deep ping list?
220 posted on 01/08/2005 6:48:37 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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