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To: NJ_gent
"A strip club owner with shady financial dealings is not a terrorist"

The money laundering laws included in the Patriot act are not, and were not intended, to be used only against terrorists.

If you had some knowledge of the Patriot act, I hope you could comment more intelligently.

109 posted on 01/05/2005 8:10:57 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: mrsmith
The money laundering laws included in the Patriot act are not, and were not intended, to be used only against terrorists.

True. The Clinton administration first tried to get them and were blocked by Repubs. So they went back on the Justice Departments shelf. And when America was kicked in the ____, and was in no mood for reasoned debate, an opportunistic government decided that would be the right time to get their wish list enacted.

How very slimy.

110 posted on 01/05/2005 8:17:30 AM PST by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: mrsmith
"The money laundering laws included in the Patriot act are not, and were not intended, to be used only against terrorists."

Regardless - the PATRIOT ACT was passed as an emergency measure to deal with a critical threat to national security. It was passed under the guise of being absolutely vital to the national security of the United States and the well-being of US citizens across the country. The bill was plopped down on the desks of Congressmen in the middle of the night and voted on the following day. Anything snuck into PATRIOT that was not intended to be used against terrorists is just as worthy of being struck down as parts of PATRIOT that were intended to be used against terrorists but have been used against non-terrorist American citizens for non-terrorism-related crimes. Those who snuck non-vital provisions into a bill hailed as 'must-pass-immediately' should be publicly outted as the frauds they are, and the provisions themselves should be struck down until such time as they can be properly presented to the Congress for real consideration. No one read this thing because no one had time to read it. Those who passed it had just come back from being hidden by the Secret Service throughout the area because their very lives were seen to be under threat. The fraud perpetrated on the US Congress and the American people in this case is one I think is damn near deserving of charges of treason for certain individuals. Indeed, some parts of PATRIOT make sense and should be kept. Other parts need to be struck down ASAP. We need to start holding Congressmen accountable for shady actions, such as slipping in last-minute garbage provisions into must-pass legislation.
137 posted on 01/05/2005 2:56:44 PM PST by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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