Posted on 01/04/2005 2:29:19 AM PST by kattracks
NEW BEDFORD, Mass. -- A man who shot and killed another man on his property has been indicted for second-degree murder, according to prosecutors. The grand jury indicted Charles D. Chieppa, 56, for the July 17 shooting of 26-year-old Frank Pereira Jr. with a rifle.The fatal shots were fired near Chieppa's property just before dawn. By sunrise, motorists drove past Mr. Pereira's body, honking their horns and shouting in support of the shooting, the Standard-Times of New Bedford reported.
Chieppa, a Vietnam War combat veteran, lived in his parent's old home and largely kept to himself, neighbors said.
The home was next to Alfie's bar, which is known for drug dealing and prostitution. Pereira had snatched a purse from an Alfie's patron just hours before he was shot, police said.
Police had initially said the shooting happened when Chieppa confronted a burglar breaking into his home around 4 a.m. A day later, detectives acknowledged that they were investigating whether Pereira had actually entered the house before Chieppa opened fire.
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"My son didn't deserve to die the way he did, even if he was trying to break in," said Evelina Salgueiro, the victim's mother. "You don't shoot someone in the back like that. He was shot in the street."
(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...
Now, down here in Virginia if Fernando tries to break into my house:
1) He gets an a$$ full of 00 Buck
2) The Deputies say - Thanks!
People don't believe me when I say I fear the local DA far more than the local criminals. Criminals can be dealt with in kind. A local DA with aspirations is a far more formidable force to deal with.
A New York cop told my parents this, too, and I overheard it (I was about 10 and our house had just been broken into - we weren't home at the time).
LQ
Whadda you expect: Massachusetts
This is still Massachusetts
More sad news from the Sodomy State.
Well, I am wondering what the facts of this particular case are.
It is possible that they think they can make a case that this guy was actually guilty of a pre-meditated vigilanty act, in which case, they have to prove it.
As usual, I am sure that things aren't exactly as we see them here.
Nicely done. Thanks.
It's derived from the Bible:
Exodus 22:2-3 If a thief is caught breaking in and is struck so that he dies, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed; but if it happens after sunrise, he is guilty of bloodshed.
Hence a nighttime burglar may simply be killed without any other evidence of threat (coming into the house at night, when people are presumably home, is threat enough); whereas in the daylight this isn't the case.
Good call on the 12 tables of the law. See post 131 for my Exodus quote on the same subject.
Sic transit gloria mundi. In the 1850's, fueled by the whaling industry, New Bedford was the wealthest city in the World.
Isn't that the truth? You just know that some ACLU loving commie lawyer with a woody about taking guns would pound this sortof thing into the ground...
When you file an insurance claim and buy another (fill-in-the-blank). Doesn't work with objects of sentimental value.
No personal property is worth a man's life, even a criminal life. While alive, a person can repent. Dead, they do not have that option.
Example two in Fulton County, some steamfitters were sharing a room at a motel just outside of sixflags while they were working on plant Jack. One guy went out for pizza and left the door unlocked Some gentleman of color came in with a gun and demanded their money and valuables of the three that were still in the room. They complied. as soon as he left one of the guys pulled a .45 ran to the door and demanded that the guy stop or he'd shoot. The thief didn't stop, and the guy fired. The thief proceded to scale the fence and run away. The victims called the police who, upon examining the area found the thief dead in the woods a couple of hundred feet away. One of the .45's had gone in his lower back and exited around his clavicle. He was brought to trial and the result was a hung jury. The DA declined to prosecute further. (I knew his attorney)
Example three Some guy went out at night and found some "youts" setting fire to his deck. He shot one (non fatally) and was not charged. I heard (rumor) that the family sued, but don't know how that turned out.
Example 4 (16 years ago) some guys were camping in a state forest somewhere around Hard Labor Creek state park when a couple of locals came by and chatted and built up the fire really large then left. The campers heard the locals come back and got suspicious. The locals came on with shotguns loaded with buckshot and fired on the campers. ONe of the campers armed with a .45 was wounded with a couple of buck shot in the thigh. The other camper opened up with his Ruger mini-14 (horrors assault rife alert) killed one on the spot and messed up the other real good. The camper wasn't charged, but the local was charged and convicted and lost the use of his bladder, and his reproductive equipment and many other things in that area. He was still undergoing surgery years after the event.
So it's a crap shoot, but it isn't an automatic conviction like it would be in totalitarian police states like MD, MA NY, NJ etc.
Yes he did.
And with that advice and $1.25 you will be able to buy a candy bar from the prison commissary.
Don't go dragging nobody nowhere. It shows criminal intent. Play 'em where they lay.
IIRC, the fellow set a booby trap with a 12 gauge and that is what they charges him for.
If you SHOOT someone, here is what you MUST SAY to the cops:
1. I WAS SCARED FOR MY LIFE. I was OHHHHH so SCARED!
2. HE/THEY/SHE said that they were going to M*****F*****ING KILL me.
3. I WILL NOT SAY ANOTHER WORD UNTIL I SPEAK TO A LAWYER!
Folks, you have CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, USE THEM!
Definately do not talk to the police beyond what is stated above. Even casual talk can be incriminating later.
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