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To: cyborg
According to the standards of the Catholic Church, it wouldn't be a natural marriage because they intentionally not having children. People who are infertile are an exception.

You have a source or reference for that? I believe you, but I don't remember ever reading that in the Catechism.
245 posted on 01/03/2005 9:58:43 AM PST by DarkSavant (It's like a koala bear crapped a rainbow in my brain!)
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To: DarkSavant

I don't have a copy of the catechism in front of me, but using birth control methods are a sin because you're going against 'be fruitful and multiply'. I don't know. That's how it used to be. Doesn't mean people listen though.


252 posted on 01/03/2005 10:01:30 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: DarkSavant
You have a source or reference for that? I believe you, but I don't remember ever reading that in the Catechism.

Willful exclusion of children is grounds for an anullment.

Willful exclusion of children (Canon 1101, sec. 2)

You or your spouse married intending, either explicitly or implicitly, to deny the other's right to sexual acts open to procreation.

Regarding natural marriage, I found this:
Traditionally speaking, the primary purpose of marriage is the generation and nurturing of offspring; the second purpose is the mutual help of spouses, and the third is the remedy for concupiscence.1 Even before marriage was perfected by grace in the Sacrament of Matrimony, God called His people to love and serve Him and each other in the married state. The intimate community of life and love which constitutes the married state has been established by the Creator and endowed by Him with its own proper laws . . . God Himself is the author of marriage. 2

Marriage is the natural, indissoluble union, perfected by the Sacrament, between one man and one woman directed towards the purpose of preserving the human race by generating and raising children. Marriage is also ordered to the mutual help of spouses and the remedy for sexual desire. This definition of marriage as a natural institution can be arrived at by common sense. Nature implants in men and women an instinct that impels them to seek the companionship of marriage and in this companionship, husband and wife are able to hope for help and an easing of their physical discomforts as they get older.3


391 posted on 01/03/2005 11:24:35 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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