If Moses did not make a persuasive argument in Exodus 32 and again in Numbers 14, Why did God Almighty say this:
Jeremiah 15
1 Then said the LORD unto me, Though Moses and Samuel stood before me, yet my mind could not be toward this people: cast them out of my sight, and let them go forth.
If God was swayed by arguments that even my children would know are too lame to use on my wife and I, then we have a problem.