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To: P-Marlowe; xzins
And how would you wiggle out of:

"Also the Glory of Israel will not lie or change His mind; for He is not a man that He should change His mind." 1 Sam 15:29

287 posted on 01/04/2005 11:12:22 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD; P-Marlowe

Harley, you are the guy who always insists on following scripture. Now...you can tinker with the interpretation of those below, but you should admit that the other side has a legitimate question. You have gone totally to the side of the verse that says that God doesn't repent. In that case, what do you do with these....say they aren't in the bible? Of course not, you interpret their meaning.

Ge 6:7 - Show Context
And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

1Sa 15:11 - Show Context
It repenteth me that I have set up Saul to be king: for he is turned back from following me, and hath not performed my commandments. And it grieved Samuel; and he cried unto the LORD all night.

Joe 2:13 - Show Context
And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the LORD your God: for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil.


290 posted on 01/04/2005 11:26:15 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: HarleyD; xzins
And how would you wiggle out of:

I'm not wiggling out of anything. I'm just stating the facts.

The scripture does not say that God "changed his mind" but it does state in several places that he "repented." Thus, there is clearly a distinction between changing your mind and repenting. I'm not sure what that distinction is with regard to God, but then I can't explain the trinity either.

When the scripture says in several places that God "repented" and then states in one single place that he is not the son of man that he SHOULD repent, it is clear that while God is not obligated to repent (as are all sons of men), nevertheless God has in times past "repented" of that which he had either done or had purposed to do.

Those are the facts. The question is what do you do with the facts once you have established them? Some pretend that the facts are not what they are and pretend that either God actually does "change his mind" (which could be said to border on heresy) or in the alternative ignore those verses where it is clear that God "repented" (which also could be said to border on heresy). (One man's orthodoxy is another man's heresy).

Perhaps on this question the best interpretation is one in which we admit that we aren't really sure how it all works. Simply stated, "God repents but he does not change his mind." Period.

Next problem?

294 posted on 01/04/2005 12:22:13 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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