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To: superskunk
This is the kind of hard science the columnist is talking about:

Study Claiming Rapid Arctic Ice Melt Refuted at Climate Summit
By Marc Morano
CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
December 14, 2004

Buenos Aires, Argentina (CNSNews.com) - A researcher who predicts a rapid melt in the Arctic region presented his findings to participants at the United Nations climate change conference here on Monday, but many conference participants questioned the validity of the science used in the study.

Robert Corell, the chair of the international Arctic Climate Impact Assessment (ACIA), summed up the findings of his group's report, saying, "We are now experiencing some very rapid and severe climate change in the Arctic."

The study, entitled "Impacts of a Warming Arctic," concludes that climate change will accelerate over the next 100 years, "contributing to major physical, ecological, social and economic changes," Corell said during his presentation to a packed conference room at the meeting.

Corell warned that the rise in sea levels from the projected melting of Greenland's ice shelf could have major impacts on coastal areas worldwide.

But Myron Ebell of the free market environmental group Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) refuted Corell and his international commission's report on Arctic melting.

"The temperature graph [of the Arctic used in the ACIA study] does not agree with any of the known [temperature] data sets for the Arctic. In other words, who knows where they got this data from," Ebell told CNSNews.com.

22 posted on 01/02/2005 1:12:46 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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To: Straight Vermonter
Good read! Thanks for posting that. For the sake of argument, let's say that everything this crackpot suggested is true (which it is clearly not). If all of this were true, that still wouldn't prove this ridiculous "greenhouse gas" theory. Let's take it even further - suppose the greenhouse gas theory is true. The world's industry combined only produces a fraction of the CO2 that the oceans do. So by this reasoning, the biggest environmental offender is the oceans. We should therefore poison those evil oceans and destroy all the life that supports them.

Forgive the rant, but the bottom line is no matter how you slice it, they're wrong. It's rare that even the stupidest people paint themselves into a corner like that. Scientists my a$$!
24 posted on 01/02/2005 1:24:59 AM PST by superskunk (Quinn's Law: Liberalism always produces the exact opposite of it's stated intent.)
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To: Straight Vermonter
A science tidbit:

Three-quarter of all the fresh water on Earth is locked up in ice even now, and we have ice caps at both poles-a situation that may be unique in Earth's history.That there are snowy winters through much of the world and permanent glaciers even in temperat places such as New Zealand may seen quite ntural, but in fact it is amost unusual situation for the planet.

58 posted on 01/02/2005 6:52:12 PM PST by razorback-bert
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