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To: RebelBanker
Grant was a drunk - prior to the War. He developed a drinking problem when he was posted out West many years earlier, which cost him (directly or indirectly) his commission and his civilian business. He quit drinking before rejoining the Army for the War.

That is really a distortion of the facts.

Grant drank when he was lonely & depressed. It started in California, yes, but he was not a "drunk". He was a man who DRANK on OCCASION and could not handle his liquor well - he got drunk easily.

The common "Grant was a Drunk!" comments care nothing for the distinction and are designed to imply that he was incompetent, immoral, intemperate, or worse, drunk on the field. That is not true. Read any one of the reputable Grant historians (Simpson, Sampson, Perret, McPherson) and they all agree on this.

I will agree with you that many of his Northern political allies also had a hand in this myth, but it was always necessary for Grant's star to fall in order for Lee's to rise in the years between 1890 and 1930 when the "Lost Cause Myth" hit full stride.

95 posted on 12/30/2004 11:58:11 AM PST by NJ Neocon (Democracy is tyranny of the masses. It is three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner)
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To: NJ Neocon
...it was always necessary for Grant's star to fall in order for Lee's to rise in the years between 1890 and 1930 when the "Lost Cause Myth" hit full stride.

I agree that the Grant story is part of the myth, but I don't see how it can enhance Lee's reputation to have been defeated by a drunk.

104 posted on 12/30/2004 12:03:46 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: NJ Neocon
He was a man who DRANK on OCCASION and could not handle his liquor well - he got drunk easily.

Whether a man downs a half flask or a full flask - aside from B/A ratios, when they're drunk, they're drunk.

123 posted on 12/30/2004 12:17:23 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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